Tiller Killed: Dr. George Tiller, Operation Rescue, Late Term Abortion Procedure doctor murdered

By • on May 31, 2009

George Tiller (August 8, 1941 – May 31, 2009) was a physician in Wichita, Kansas in the United States. He was the medical director of an abortion clinic in Wichita, Women’s Health Care Services, which specializes in the provision of late-term procedures. Dr. Tiller was shot and murdered while serving as an usher at his Lutheran church on May 31, 2009.

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The Women’s Health Care Services clinic is a family planning clinic in Kansas. In particular, Troy Newman and Operation Rescue have made it their goal to see the clinic closed. The clinic has been one of a limited number nationwide that provide late-term procedures.

The clinic itself is unusual in that it offers funerary services to its patients. Some of these services include photographs, footprinting and handprinting, baptism, cremation, arrangement for burial in or out of state, and arrangement for amniocentesis and/or autopsy. Tiller was the target of anti-abortion violence. On August 19, 1993, he was shot in both arms outside of the Wichita clinic by Shelley Shannon, who received an 11-year prison sentence for the crime. On May 31, 2009, Tiller was shot to death as he served as an usher during church services.

The anti-abortion group Operation Rescue condemned the murder:

“We are shocked at this morning’s disturbing news that Mr. Tiller was gunned down. Operation Rescue has worked for years through peaceful, legal means, and through the proper channels to see him brought to justice. We denounce vigilantism and the cowardly act that took place this morning. We pray for Mr. Tiller’s family that they will find comfort and healing that can only be found in Jesus Christ.”

Background

Tiller studied at the University of Kansas School of Medicine from 1963 to 1967. Shortly thereafter, he held a medical internship with United States Navy, and served as flight surgeon in Oakland, California in 1969 and 1970.

Controversy

Christin Gilbert

Christin Gilbert, a 19-year-old woman with Down Syndrome from Keller, Texas, died in January 2005 after a multi-day abortion procedure performed at Tiller’s facility, though reports conflict as to whether the abortion was performed by Tiller himself or by LeRoy Carhart. Gilbert had been 28 weeks pregnant. The autopsy stated that Gilbert died of sepsis following the abortion.[9] Tiller was cleared of any wrongdoing by the Kansas Board of Healing Arts. After a petition from Operation Rescue, a grand jury was convened to probe the death,[10][11] which resulted in no indictments against Tiller.

The O’Reilly Factor controversy

On Friday, November 3, 2006, Bill O’Reilly featured an exclusive segment on his show, The O’Reilly Factor, saying that he has an “inside source” with official clinic documentation indicating that George Tiller performs late-term abortions to alleviate “temporary depression” in the pregnant woman.[12] According to reporting data provided to the Kansas Board of Healing Arts for the year 1998, all of the post-viable “partial-birth” (dilation and extraction) abortion procedures performed in Kansas during that year were performed because “the attending physician believe[d] that continuing the pregnancy [would] constitute a substantial and irreversible impairment of the patient’s mental function.”[citation needed] Tiller responded to O’Reilly’s statements by demanding an investigation into the “inside source” through which the information was leaked, suggesting that Phill Kline, then the Kansas Attorney General, was responsible. Kline denied the charge.

Trial and acquittal

Tiller went on trial in March 2009, charged with nineteen misdemeanors for allegedly consulting a second physician in late-term abortion cases who was not truly “independent” as required by Kansas state law.[13][14]

The case became a cause célèbre for both supporters and opponents of abortion rights. Columnist Jack Cashill compared the trial to the Nuremberg Trials of Nazi war criminals,[15] while NYU Professor Jacob Appel described Tiller as “a genuine hero who ranks alongside Susan B. Anthony and Martin Luther King Jr. in the pantheon of defenders of human liberty.”[16]

On March 27, 2009, Tiller was found not guilty of all 19 misdemeanor charges stemming from some abortions he performed at his Wichita clinic in 2003.[17]

Death

George Tiller was shot dead around 10:00 am Sunday, May 31, 2009 while serving as an usher during worship services at Reformation Lutheran Church in Wichita.[7] Local television station KAKE reported that a suspect fled the scene in a light or powder blue Ford Taurus.[18][19]

The suspect fled the scene in his vehicle and authorities are still investigating. The suspect was described as a white male in his 50′s or 60′s, 6’1,” 220 lbs, wearing a white shirt and dark pants. The car is licensed to Merriam, Kansas. The car was later pulled over near Gardner, Kansas and a person was arrested at the time. [18][20]

A candlelight vigil to honor Tiller has been announced for the night of May 31, 2009, in Old Town Square in Wichita.[21]

Reaction to murder

The Kansas chapter of the National Organization for Women issued a statement that read in part, “The Kansas National Organization for Women is deeply saddened at the cowardly act of violence committed against Dr. George Tiller, a champion for women’s reproductive freedom—an act that ultimately took his life. Dr. Tiller, although previously surviving many acts of terrorism and violence directed at him and his clinic, did not allow it to stop him from standing up for the rights of all women. Kansas NOW grieves not only the loss of Dr. Tiller, but also the loss that all women needing access to safe abortion have suffered due to this act of violence.”[22]

Anti-abortion activist Randall Terry, a founder of Operation Rescue, which is now under new leadership and known as Operation Save America, responded to Tiller’s death by issuing a statement in which he wrote: “George Tiller was a mass-murderer. We grieve for him that he did not have time to properly prepare his soul to face God. I am more concerned that the Obama Administration will use Tiller’s killing to intimidate pro-lifers into surrendering our most effective rhetoric and actions. Abortion is still murder. And we still must call abortion by its proper name, murder.”[23]

The president of Operation Rescue, formerly known as Operation Rescue West in Wichita, Troy Newman, commented that “Operation Rescue has worked tirelessly on peaceful, non-violent measures to bring him to justice through the legal system, the legislative system […] Mr. Tiller was an abortionist. But this wasn’t personal. We are pro life, and this act was antithetical to what we believe. Our prayers go out to his family and the thousands of people this will impact”[24] The group also stated “We denounce vigilantism and the cowardly act that took place this morning”.[20]

“Dr. Tiller was a fearless, passionate defender of women’s reproductive health and rights,” said Nancy Northup, President of the New York-based Center for Reproductive Rights, which had worked on a legal matters with Dr. Tiller. “It’s time that this nation stop demonizing these doctors, and start honoring them.” Former Kansas Attorney General Phill Kline, who had prosecuted Tiller, issued a statement saying, “I am stunned by this lawless and violent act which must be condemned and should be met with the full force of law. We join in lifting prayer that God’s grace and presence rest with Dr. Tiller’s family and friends.” Bioethicist Jacob Appel, a longtime Tiller supporter, wrote, “George Tiller will now become for American women what Medgar Evers became for African-Americans. That is no consolations for his friends and family, but it is the lesson of hope to be drawn from this horrific crime.” Kansas Governor Mark Parkinson also condemned the murder.

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  • The Light

    George Tiller is dead as he should be at least he can no longer take the lives of the unborn, As for the Saint who gave up his freedom to kill him God bless him!

  • MrAK

    Thank God someone finaly killed that son of a bitch. George Tiller being in a church is like Hitler being in a synagogue. The Man who has gave up his freedom to stop that mass murder should be made a saint. At least now George Tiller is in Hell with the rest of History's Mass murders!

  • Ed Dichion

    It looks like Dr. George Tiller had a late term abortion performed on him!!

  • Guest

    If you are so adamant about abortion being wrong, does killing someone who does abortions make everything right?
    It just makes pro-lifers look like psychotic murderers. It's a woman's choice.

  • Proudpagan

    I see religion's is rearing its ugly, judgmental head again.

    Did you know religion has been the leading cause of death for over two thousand years? It's killed more than any abortionist, natural disaster or disease.

  • Mary

    Amazing how people who claim to be “Christian” are rejoicing at the cold-blooded murder of a man. I don't recall where in the Bible Jesus told his followers to commit murder. Interesting how these people conveniently pick and choose which parts of Jesus' teachings they take seriously and which they simply toss aside.

  • GaPeach

    So if an abortion is an act of murder and the person who performs them and have them performed are evil and going to hell and should be condemned to death then what punishment should this idiot of a shooter be subject to. Did he not commit murder? If there are people in America who think like these three douchebags then, the U. S. is a scary ass place to live. I believe in freedom of choice but to play God and viciously take the life of a man who this “saint” felt shouldn't be on earth anymore is an atrocity. So why don't we start shooting drug dealers, prostitutes, crackheads, known racists, or how about people who just don't share the same views as we do? I'm outraged by this act of stupidity and ignorance.

  • Mary

    Whatever happened to What Would Jesus Do? Do you really think Jesus would smile upon committing murder in a church, regardless of who was being killed?

  • Guest

    I have to agree with Mary completely… I find it interesting how people claim that abortion is such a wrongful act in killing a child but yet it is perfectly fine to murder a man for doing his job and what he believed he should be doing. MrAK: you are completely ignorant to say such a thing, there is only one person who ultimately decides who lives and who dies: GOD. praising someones murder should send you to straight to hell…no one should have their life taken from them because they do what someone else is wrong.

  • MrAK

    Killing an abortion doctor is no different than kicking in the doors of a Nazi death camp and killing the head SS cdr. nobody cared when they swung from a rope in nuremburg so whats the difference in killing a man who make a living killing other human beings he was killed to stop him from murdering anymore children

  • Dee

    Sorry, I meant one in ten million.

  • MrAK

    Oh and in resopnce to mary. jesus said a lot of contrdictory shit. thats why i read the OLD testment where there is a whole lot of kill people who don't agree with you type stuff

  • jarizpe

    I guess none of you that are leaving comments have ever had to carry a baby inside of you after being told that she would not survive birth. I have. My daughter had one of the worst cases of holoprosencephaly that the 21 specialists treating me had ever seen. Yet, even with no nose or full functioning brain, my daughter still had a heart beat. I was 7 months pregnant and would've had to carry her full term knowing that doctors had given her NO chance of survival and a 50% chance of me dying while giving birth to her. Dr Tiller made my VERY much LOVED and WANTED daughter's INEVITABLE passing easier emotionally and physically for myself and my family than it would've been without his care. Matt. 7:1-5

  • Kansan

    You are a sadistic, sick individual. Dr. Tiller has a wife, children and grandchildren who are mourning his death.

  • jack

    why is this man who has killed so many being treated like a hero?

    The stupidity of some is unbelievable (as in they must be faking it)

    If you can recognize that killing him was horrible (which it was) then why would you say that killing a child of a woman nine months pregnant is heroic?

  • MrAK

    Matt 7:1-5 more relgious crap. however i would be fine being juded by those standerds if you kill you will be killed fine by me thats the way it ought to be. I only read the bible cuz lets face it it's funny to me. In my first post i made refernce to hell because thats were George Tiller belongs it's just to bad there is not a hell for him to go to. I never claimed to be christian cuz most christians i have met are the biggest hypocrites i have ever had the misfortune of meeting. i do however belive if your job is to kill babies and someone kills you you got what was coming.

  • lj

    Now, I don't believe any murder is right, but it was his profession, he was doing what he believed is right, the fact that he was murdered is truly a shame.And I am a Christian but I completely understand what you mean about being hypocrites and now would be a perfect example of that…it's a sad world that we all live in.

  • lj

    He did what he believed was right in helping out women and their rights of their bodies and was punished by someone who did not agree with him..it's a shame. I cannot imagine what you went through but I do think that he helped out women tremendously.

  • LLLAAA

    Not supporting the murder of anyone but there might be some karma coming around on this one. Lots of blood on the doc's hands. The shooter is a criminal.
    No denying it, but that doctor was a hypocrite.

  • You all have loud mouths, now?

    it's all relevance ~ and did you cheer when they took down Saddam, or wait… um, are you secretly cheering on the hunt for Osama Bin Laden ~ hypocrite

  • You all have loud mouths, now?

    I agree ~ I'm so sorry you had to go through this ~ “Pre-natal testing without pre-natal choices is medical fraud,” George Tiller ~ August 8, 1941 – TODAY Rest in Peace & our thoughts are with his family and yours as well.

  • You all have loud mouths, now?

    which one? you mean the one whose child's death was inevitable? ? ? Dr. Tiller even said that abortion is as horrible as slavery but that giving a woman the KNOWLEDGE by prenatal diagnosis of problems in utero & then leaving her NO OPTIONS??? What kind of sick joke is that???? = malpractice . . . not quite fair, eh?

  • Meg

    I don't agree – his job was not to kill babies. Dr. Tiller's job was to ease the pain of a mother having severe pregnancy complications. People didn't just walk in the front door and say “I don't want a baby today”; take jarizpe's experience as an example. It absolutely disgusts me that some pro-lifers consider themselves “pro-life” and wished and rejoice this man's death. If pro-life means to support life and living life, then can you really consider yourself a pro-lifer if you take pleasure in this?

    Abortion doctors are not cold-blooded, soulless people. Many of them have families that they love and treasure, INCLUDING children, so there is no way to argue that all abortionists hate babies. They are simply performing a service for those who have little else to resort to who may find that their lives are in danger. To this, you may respond “So, what about the baby? Why not die so the baby may live?” In many instances, the mother's chance of survival is low if she gives birth to a baby who may not even be born alive or last outside the womb for more than a month.

    As a friend of mine stated, “my thoughts and prayers go out to a family in Wichita that did not deserve the loss of a loving husband, father, and grandfather. No matter your views it is God's place to judge, not ours.”

  • ash

    yea that killed helpess babies!

  • Mary

    I'm so sorry for what happened to you jarizpe – I cannot imagine. It's cases like yours that remind me why abortion must remain legal and why people who sit around and judge have NO idea what it's like to be in such an impossible and agonizing situation.

  • HMS

    I love seeing late term abortionists…. aborted!
    The man who did it should be promoted to President of the United States and given a medal immediately!

  • Yousef

    Thank God !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOD IS GREAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! George Tiller is dead ——————–

  • Yousef

    THANK GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOD IS GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! George Tiller is dead ~~~

  • Ellen Collins

    Bravo! I think the hero who stepped up and did away with that revolting piece of humankind should receive a medal! I intend to make a generous donation to his defense fund. The man who gave his freedom for the right of the unborn to live is a true hero and I will do what I can to help in any way I can!

  • cb

    I must say that I feel some relief knowing that what this man was doing has ended, it unhuman not to. I just wish that it was on a different term. I just pray that somehow, someway he had a chance to repent and ask for mercy. I am very sorry for the grief that his family is left to endore. What sorrow that they must have, with so many making them feel shamed for loving and missing their husband/father/brother/son. As I am confronted with Colossians 3:13 (NIV) “Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you”, My heart and my prayers go out to them. I pray that God will have mercy on that mans soul.
    I am also compelled to say that being a Christian does not make you perfect, as Christians we are well aware that we all fall short, that no sin is greater that the other. We will not be judged by our own standards, but that of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior's standards. See thats what a Christian is, realizing that we need to be saved and we need forgiveness and that Jesus is the only way. Jesus died for all of our sins, and yes even Dr. Tiller's.

  • Ellen Collins

    Meg, you are wrong, abortion doctors ARE indeed cold blooded, soulless people. Coming from a family of doctors, nurses and medical professionals, there are VERY few examples of valid cases where a mother's life is TRULY in danger. The babies who are aborted, especially the cruel, disgusting way that Tiller did his work, were simply murdered. There ARE people who deserve to die and HE was one of them! I'm glad he's dead.

  • Ellen Collins

    You are a very nice and well meaning person CB, but I think that Jesus would have killed Tiller himself if he were here on earth now.

  • Sophia

    Killing this Doctor is not going to stop any woman from getting an abortion. Women should have the right to make the best choice based on their lives/circumstances. The media is making his practice seem like it was run out of cramped, dirty basement. Planned Parenthood is clean, private and offers thorough counseling prior to making your decision.

  • Ellen Collins

    You are giving yourself a pass. You would NOT have died giving birth to your child. You simply didn't want to wait for nature to take it's course and decided that you would hasten her demise. Shame on you and shame on ANYONE who believes your self serving nonsense story about your impending demise if you had not had a late term abortion. You are as bad as the doctor who killed your child.

  • Ellen Collins

    Whether or not he was clean is hardly the point. He was killing completely viable babies for the simple fact that they were UNWANTED. He was a killer who got his just deserts. Anyone who kills an innocent child, be he or she a doctor,or the mother of the fetus, is a MURDERER! Simple as that. Planned Parenthood is one of the worst offenders, but the VERY WORST are the women who make the final decision to end their child's life. I don't know how they can live with themselves after taking an innocent life simply because it was “inconvenient” to carry the child to term. There is absolutely NO excuse for the taking of an innocent life.

  • Ellen Collins

    His family benefited from the money he made killing unborn children. I call that blood money. They were complicit in his crimes as sure as someone who benefits from a crime even if they were not directly involved. They should hang their heads in shame for the blood of innocent babies that their husband, father, et al., has shed.

  • CLH

    I am extremely against what Dr. George Tiller did during his life, but he deserved to live… he had a right to, as does every person. As for the the shooter, I hope he doesn't claim to be pro-life because he certainly is not. You don't make right with wrong and wrong (quite hypocritical). As for the comments following the article… disgusting. I am really sad that people don't realize what they are saying half the time (or more). No one should be praise or be uplifted by a death. If you believe that what he did in his life is wrong, simply prove what you believe in by being respectful. Being pro-life is being against murder, this man was murdered. End of story.

  • H

    It is EXTREMELY rare for the mother's life to be endangered because of pregnancy. I know of several women who had been pressured by doctors to have an abortion. Standing their ground and keeping their children they had beautiful healthy babies and they were perfectly fine. One mother brought her new born to the doctor who pressured her showing him the child he wanted to abort.

    However I agree with you that the reaction to this man's murder is disgusting and hypocritical. Unfortunately, people get so worked up in this issue they lose sight of the bigger picture. Pro-life is against murder, pro-lifers should be respectful none-the-less. As a pro-life believer, I will have this man (Dr Tiller)'s family is in my prayers.

  • Alpha

    No, you should be demoted to keeping your mouth shut and not making a large group look like hypocritical idiots. Really you are making things worse for the pro-life movement when you praise a death. Seriously, think about it.

  • Alpha

    Did Jesus murder any one when he was here last time? …… hmm….

    What Tiller did was wrong, but what happened to end his life was wrong as well. Murder is how this man's life ended. Not a heart attack, not an accident, MURDER.

    Bible says murder is wrong.

  • trex

    Ellen Collins your mother should have aborted you

  • Alpha

    They aren't cold blooded. They just are on the wrong path. Have you ever read about abortionists that have changed their mind? I know of plenty.

  • lexa

    Mrka- seriously dude u have issues… the old testament also says it is okay to sacrifice children and murder women (INCLUDING PREGNANT WOMEN)-… if you believe that i am scared… lol

  • lexa

    Ellen- you may be even nuttier than mrak- HOW can you take JOY in a man getting murdered. You people are seriously disgusting. Either you're pro life or you're not! (obviously your not) dude seriously you wana make a fuss because a woman wants to abort a FETUS but you are jumping for joy when a man is murdered? I will pray for you tonight honey.

  • Dr. MM

    I'm sorry someone like Ellen Collins had to comment on this. Sometimes babies don't survive! Holoprosencephaly would have killed her daughter, and as an OB/GYN I know this! I work in a hospital, and have had to tell parents the devastating news. Ellen, her child would not have lived-and she most likely would have bled out on the operating table. The best case scenario would see the baby live for 10 minutes, tops, while her mother could be mortally wounded. You do not have the capacity to understand this if you are not a parent who went through this or a Doctor.

  • Mary

    Ellen Collins, YOU should be ashamed of yourself. You sit there and judge others when you have NO idea. None.

    Even if she was at no risk to deliver the baby, she should not have to justify her choice to end her pregnancy and not carry a severely deformed baby for two months. Have you ever been pregnant? Have you ever had to face this kind of agonizing choice? What gives YOU the right to stand in judgment of her?

  • Mary

    Ellen Collins, if you are for real, you are a disgusting human being.

  • jarizpe

    Dr. MM, I thank you so much for ur comment. Ppl like Ellen Collins are so narrow minded and ignorant. How she can say that there was NO possibility of me dying giving birth is beyond me. Its not like this is something I wanted to experience. I had 21 specialists…21! All of them gave the same prognosis. I couldn't take that 50% chance of dying with her, even though believe me I wanted to. I had two young children that were alive and had their whole lives ahead of them. Burying a child IS one of the worst experiences you can ever go thru. And even though I know that Ellen Collins wouldn't understand unless she was in that situation… I would never wish it on her. Again thank you for your words.

  • Carol

    So what Jesus said is SHIT? What kind of Christian are you? The OLD Testament is not the teachings of Jesus. He came to bring a new testament and a new covenant based on love. Judge not lest ye be judged.

  • bluesky

    good riddens to dr tiller, the baby killer, i say a gunshot to the head was to good for him, he should have been injected with saline solution in his heart, if you had one, had his brains crushed, sucked out with a vacum cleaner, or forceps, and than if he survived that left on the table for dead like one of his abortion operations, and let him feel the pain. and if that did not work, than a shot to the head would be feasible. everyone on here can cry over him, brag about him, put the prolifers down, but THANK GOD he is dead.

  • bluesky

    i agree with you, although, a gun shot to the head was to good for him. he should feel the pain the way those innocent babies had to feel the pain. regardless what people think of how he was murdered he is dead, and although people schedule for an abortion today, may choose not to have one. so a life is spared. i put tiller up there with hitler. mass-murderers

  • bluesky

    i will not lose any sleep over his murder!! what will happen to his clinic??? hopefully it will be shut down for good??

  • bluesky

    how can his church be behind dr. tiller??? let me get this picture straight, an abortionist serves as an usher in a church and then is murdered in the church??? sound like a lifetime movie, truth is stranger than fiction. and than they have a vigal for him later at the church??? i would hate to be a pregnant woman and attend that church. anyway, he is dead. thank GOD for that, because he does work in mysterious way.

  • bluesky

    regardless of what anyone's view are he is dead. i know all those babies about to be aborted today, may rest a little easier. i say one abortionist vs. the iife of an innoncent unborn baby/or babies, i say i like those odds.

  • bluesky

    he should be up there with mother theresa and princess diana

  • Nadia

    This was cold blooded, premeditated murder of a law abiding citizen. Yes, he was law abiding or he would have been convicted on those previous charges. It baffles me how these extremists fail to take into consideration that the killing of Dr Tiller was a violent and illegal act, both in the eyes of American Law and the 10 Commandments that they profess to live by. The people responsible for bombing his clinic in the 80's, Shelley Shannon who shot Dr Tiller in his arms in 1993, and the man who murdered him yesterday are all terrorists, not saints.

    I fail to see how the termination of a fetus that is not viable (healthy) or that poses a physical or mental health risk to the mother is to be considered murder?? Of those of you respondents who believe that it is, how many of you live a MODEST lifestyle and dedicate the rest of your income to support the health and housing needs of the children from these births? How many of you have stepped up to the plate and brought a severely medically or physically handicapped child into your home and agreed to love, care for and be responsible for his/her medical costs and care for the rest of his/her life? How many of you have offered financial support and housing for the rest of her life to an expectant mother who faces the risk of long term physical or psychological damage as a result of bringing such a pregnancy to term? How many of you drink, smoke, gamble, take vacations, watch cable TV but don't sponsor the millions of starving and ill children around the world whose mothers were either uneducated enough to use birth control, for whom abortion was not an option, and who may have even been forced to have intercourse and may have even since contracted AIDS and died leaving these children as orphans? Is it only unborn (and likely not viable) fetuses in North America that concern you? How many of you respondents that are against these abortions are really only concerned about the white unborn fetuses? How many of you only donate time and money to charity when there is a benefit to your own little community, or your own friends or family? Hypocrites!

    The money that Dr Tiller earned, practicing legal medicine in his clinic is no more “blood money” than the money spent by others frivolously instead of helping the sick, dying and starving around the world. If you “pro-lifer's” are serious about your campaign, put a stop to the terrorism against law abiding citizens and put your money where your mouth is; take financial, moral and legal responsibility of all of the victims (fetuses and mothers) of pregnancies that in a normal ethical and democratic society would have been terminated.

  • bluesky

    regards to nadia

    blah, blah, blah, HITLER thought the say way you do, unless you are perfect, you should not live. so congratulations, you think just like HITLER.

  • bluesky

    good riddens dr tiller, hopefully your clinic will shut down. and bill oreilly will give you a great send off

  • bluesky

    tiller was a mass-murderer just like hitler, some people praise both as heroes. thank god tiller is dead.

  • bluesky

    i am glad tiller is dead, my theory is this man, as well as many other, view tiller as taking innocent babies lives. and he was protecting the future unborn children. so would it not be justifiable homicide, but unfortunately, the law does not see it that way. can his defense use this reasoning???? but regardless, i would contribute to his defense fund.

  • bluesky

    the shooter should of use saline solution, a bullet in the head was to good for tiller, he should have been an abortion procedure.

  • Genni

    Stop with the “Judge Not Lest You Be Judged” stuff. That's not how Christians have to treat the world. Christians are not to Judge (AKA–try to rule or govern), but can say if something is right or wrong–to other Christians. If you're not a Christian, you not a brother, and Christians are just supposed to pray for you.

    “If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.' If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector” (Mt 18:15-17).

  • genesgalore

    all montheist die brainwashed.

  • Ellen Collins

    Sorry doc, you're wrong. You know, if you truly ARE a physician, that she would NOT have bled out on the table. That is nonsence. She was in a situation that was sure to have an unhappy ending so she simply took it upon herself to end the life of the fetus rather than going through with either the pregnancy or allowing the fetus to die in-utero. If the fetus HAD died and she was having problems because of a missed abortion (you would know THAT term “doctor”) delivery could have then been induced. She CHOSE not to have to endure what would have been an unpleasant situation by taking the matter into her own hands. And, by trhe way, I had a fetus die in-utero during my seventh month of pregnancy. I carried the child until my platelet count was off the charts and then labor was induced. You have no moral high ground here, sir. You are excusing the willful taking of a life. We BOTH know it.

  • Ellen Collins

    Thanks for your prayers… DUDE.

  • Ellen Collins

    Are you offended because you happen to be one of the people who, instead of carring a baby to full term, chose to kill it instead? If so, had you never heard of adoption agencies? There are many people who would love to adopt a baby. Could it be that YOU are one of Tiller's patients?
    ANYONE who has had an abortion should face the FACT that THEY took the life of an innocent child. All you PCers out there who want to silence someone for stating the truth simply don't want to face the truth. Take the life of an innocent… you are a murderer.

  • Ellen Collins

    Mary, I am for real. I have NEVER killed a human being or an animal, I have never stolen anything from anyone and yet you make the statement that it is I who is the disgusting person. I assume you have come to that conclusion because I am against the taking of an innocent life. May I suggest that it is Dr. Tiller that was truly the disgusting person, as well as any woman who takes the life of her own child. The fact that I say what is not the politically correct thing to say offends you. If I were you Mary, I would rethink my value scale. Or can it be that I have simply struck a nerve?

  • Ha

    I'd hate to worship a mon. Mondays just really can be hard on you.
    Spelling is so hard. It's just easier to be dumb…and cool like all my athiest/agnostic friends.

  • andrea

    Everyone who has commented negative on either side should read the constitution. We all have the right to tell our views and we should not be slammed or called evil names by someone if someone does not share our views. I think most of you should grow up and understand that it is not easy on either side of the abortion decision.

  • wldbll

    although I don,t agree with late term abortions, Operation Rescue promotes violence by “tracking” people it disagrees with. All those involved in Operation Rescue hold hands in the death of this man. I don't believe you can release a “statement” and exonerate yourselves….you set the fuse and gave him the match. May you all sleep well tonight.

  • dub

    Ending 28 week pregnancy?????????Sounds like murder to me …….why I guess in this obamanation people should be allowed to kill their toddler because theyre stressed out or just tired of being parents …..ok ill concede to one abortion but after the first one and the woman chooses to have a second abortion because she is to stupid to keep her legs together or to use contraceptives we put her in a zog / muslim concentration camp till she has the baby which is then put up for adoption then we euthanize her because she is only bringing the rest of the human race down …

  • Ind

    Holopros is generally not fatal, it just gives you an imperfect child. Guess you couldn't stand the thought of that. Hope you sleep well at night…

  • Ind

    I am a neurologist. I have many families that love their children with holoprosencephaly. Depending on the degree of the abnormality, they can be mildly to severely impaired. These courageous parents care for them even though it is difficult and often thankless. Don't fool yourself, you took the easy way out. No way did you have 21 specialists. You don't need that many to diagnose this. Giving birth for you would have not been any more dangerous than it is for any woman.

    This guy killed 60,000 babies over his career and made 1 million plus a year. He is an abomination to the practice of medicine and what he did makes me sick. I'm not going to agree that he should have been killed, but I sure won't lose any sleep over it. Why did he bother going to church?

  • BoomBoom

    BOTTOM LINE – This is the minority of cases, not the majority. You ALL know that of the thousands upon thousands of lives this man ended, most of those cases were not medical necessity!

  • BoomBoom

    oh give me a break! you know good and well that this man was not just performing abortions on women who absolutely NEEDED it for medical reasons. Get outta here with that…

    you're not about to convince me that all SIXTY THOUSAND ++ lives he took were all medical necessities. Please!

    no i do not condone this man's murder. i'm sure if the babies could talk, they would have wanted a chance to live too. so…someone made the choice for him, just as he has been making choices for others for the majority of his career. if you think it's okay for someone else to decide who lives and who doesn't what's the difference here? george tiller probably wanted to live to see another day. thousands of babies would have made the same choice.

    pro abortion people always like to take the ONE out of every 1,000 people who have an actual medical condition that may make an abortion necessary and use it to excuse every single abortion performed. MOST people use abortion as a form of birth control because they are irresponsible, and that is unacceptable.

  • Maria Herrera

    I belive what that man did by killing the Dr. was wrong and this is coming from a christian person. I do belive that if you live by the sword you die by it, and I belive this is what happened in this case. For anyone that thinks abortion is right they need to look at pictures of what they do to these babies, and if you do see it as “It's a womens choice” than you are a sick person and truly need to re-evaluate your self. Abortion is a selfish and cowardly act! I do pray for these babies that lose there lives and I will also pray for this Dr. and all Dr's that they can open there eyes and see what they are doing is considered murder.

  • cb

    Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn. Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position. Do not think you are superior.
    Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay, “says the Lord. On the contrary:
    “If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
    if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
    In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”
    Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
    Romans 12:14-21

  • Guest

    Wrong. Third term abortions are illegal in most states (Kansas included) EXCEPT in three cases:

    1) The fetus is dead and the mother's body is not self aborting it. If left, it could cause her to get a horrific infection that could kill her.
    2) The fetus is severely deformed, such as in Jarizpe's case. Sir, go to google and type in 'harlequin baby'. Then, tell me that is something you would want your wife, female partner, sister, mother, daughter, or any other female relative to go through the trauma of giving birth to.
    3) The mother stands a better that 20% chance of dying. As a male, you may not be aware of the fact that birth is very difficult and dangerous. In 1900, one in three births ended in the death of the mother, baby, or both within 72 hours. That dropped considerably with the advent of penicillin and other antibiotics, but has not gone to zero by any stretch of the imagination. The opening in the pelvis is just barely large enough for a full term baby's head to pass through. This leads to lots of problems, such as breeches which can lead to tears in the uterus and internal bleeding.

    Third term abortions are not legally available on request anywhere in the country. It is difficult and holds many risks (though not near as many as giving birth). Until you are familiar with the law and actual statistics, please don't start spouting lies and propaganda.

  • Guest

    And your medical expertise that allow you to make that call are…?

  • Guest

    How many babies have you (any of the other “pro-life” people here) adopted? None, right? Until you have 3 or more adopted children, you're nothing but a hypocrite.

  • Outraged

    I am outraged at the lack of compassion and forgiveness that those of you claiming religion have. There is no justification for murder on either side of the abortion fence. The number one rule of the Christian faith is to love thy neighbor. We are not to judge. There is only one who can judge and the majority of you will have to answer to God on the Day of Judgment for the comments you have placed on this page. To glorify murder is sinful and utterly shameful. I am appalled by the number of people glorifying the murder of this man and claiming to have faith in Jesus. Oh ye of little faith? God seeks his own revenge. He handles all things. A sin is a sin. The things you have written or no better than the acts you are discrediting Dr. Tiller by. He who is without sin cast the first stone…I bet not even a pebble will be able to leave your hands. God have mercy on your souls!

  • jarizpe

    You cant even spell it right so how would you know that is “generally” not fatal?

  • jarizpe

    Ellen Collins you are very lucky that i'm not as crazed as you and you Pro Life wierdos or I would kill you myself! Then you and your militia would be right in calling me a murderer.

  • jarizpe

    How the hell can you say that i DIDNT have 21 specialists? Were you there? I didn't just take the word of ONE doctor telling me that my baby had holoprosencephaly. I got as many opinions as I could. I begged these doctors to come up with a plan or a medical miracle to save her. I wanted my daughter, I loved her. NONE of these doctors could help her. NONE of them even wanted to try! Had her case been one of these “mild cases of holoprosencephaly” you speak of, one of these 21 doctors would've tried to help me, right? But they didn't. They didn't because they couldn't. Instead, they refered me to Dr. Tiller because there was nothing they could do to save her. One of those doctor's actually referred to her life if she would survive the birth “like taking a fish out of water, it would flop around for a while till it dies.” NONE of them wanted to help me! NONE of them! They couldn't! Don't you see that? Dr. Tiller never said anything that offensive to me about my baby. He treated me with a great deal of respect. He forever has my admiration.

  • Mal

    So basically Mr AK is simply a nutso who's been watching too many 80s macho movies. The quality of argument in these threads from the right is appalling. Quite simply you are justifying the murder of a man for carrying out his legal right to offer abortion services to women in need. Nobody likes the idea of late term abortions, folks – terrible for the mother and the child. Comparisons to the holocaust are just odious foolish and ignorant.

  • Ellen Collins

    Crazed? I have never killed anyone nor do I promote the killing of any innocent! Can you say the same?

  • Ellen Collins

    My husband, my daughter and my son. All doctors. Two surgeons and one OBGYN. Any more questions?

  • Ellen Collins

    IND is telling you the truth! Thank heaven that there are still physicians who speak out about the atrocities that are being committed in the name of “women's choice”

    Jarizpe, you killed that baby as sure as if you cut off her head yourself, and that is EXACTLY what happened to her. Either that, or a pair of scissors was pushed into the bottom of her brain and the contents of her head were sucked out. It's about time someone told you the truth. YOU are responsible for killing her regardless of WHAT you tell yourself. You may call me and IND any name you may think of, but we are telling you the TRUTH. You didn't love your daughter, you loved an easy way out of a bad situation and you are giving yourself a pass. You are not a martyr, you are a murderer.

  • Mal

    What a joy it must be to have such absolute certainty about this – everybody else is wrong and you are right. What a joy for you. So I'm going to assume that with your pro-life attitude you are going protest the death of that prisoner in Abu-Ghraib at the hands of American soldiers,and insist on the their deaths, are you? (What – they don't deserve it? Didn't they take an innocent life?)

  • Ellen Collins

    Jarizpe, read the others who happen to be physicians. You killed your child. Look at yourself in the mirror and you look at the woman who killed her daughter. Am I being harsh, maybe… but nothing compared to what YOU did. At least I tell the TRUTH.

  • Guest

    Where exactly are you getting your fake statistics?

    First, it's 1 out of every 100,000 pregnancies each year that have a problem serious enough to make abortion a recommendation in order to protect the mother (who can conceive and give birth to another child if she is alive but can't if she dies along with the fetus).

    Second, there are about 304 million people in the United States based on the last census. Getting to 60,000 (which is likely much higher than the actual 3rd term abortions he preformed) over the course of several decades is very possible. Using your statistic, it would take even less time, especially when you consider that he was one of only a few people in the country that actually safely preformed third term abortions.

    Third, no one uses abortion as a form of birth control. No one. That is a myth made up by people who want to make abortion illegal, ban birth control, and think people should be “punished for having sex” by being forced to get pregnant and take care of children they don't want or love.

    Forth, and this is very important so please pay attention, no one is pro-abortion. People are either pro-legal abortion or anti-legal abortion. One group favors keeping abortions legal and safe but works to reduce the number of unplanned pregnancies so there is less need for abortion. The other works to end abortion which would drive poor women to back allies where many will die while the rich fly to Japan to get a safe abortion where it is legal. They also do little to nothing to help prevent unplanned pregnancies or support the children once they arrive. This is why it is hard for the two groups to work together. They have two very different mind sets and it is hard for them find common ground.

    Imagine if ever pregnancy were planned, every child was wanted, there was no children without a permanent home, and medical problems during or after pregnancy did not exist. The world would be a better place. However, that is not the world we live in. Until it is, to protect all the people that are here now, we can not outlaw abortions. If you really want to help end abortions, start working towards reducing unplanned pregnancies. Then call your representative and tell him/her you want welfare to really take care of poor single women with children (ya know, all those women who choose not to terminate their pregnancies even when they couldn't afford another child) who are the main group who can benefit from welfare. This would do far more to help than screaming and killing doctors.

  • Guest

    So all those woman that go there for the cheep/free pre and post natal care to give their healthy babies that they wanted and love a chance have nowhere to go anymore? That's a great wish, isn't it? A lot more than abortions are preformed at those clinics, but I guess those already born babies aren't important to you.

  • Guest

    Here here. They are quite vile and unsympathetic. It's people like them that support these horrible right wing christian taliban members that go around murdering people.

  • Guest

    Ellen, I mean, not the doctor.

  • Guest

    So, how many special needs children have you adopted? I'm just curious. You keep claiming people are killing their babies because they don't want them. How many of these severely deformed, unwanted babies have you taken in? Until you are adopting them, you are just a mean, hypocritical woman with no sympathy or compassion for anyone but yourself and fetuses (though not babies because you don't seem to care about them after they are born).

  • Guest

    And this is why it is impossible to even listen to you people. When someone points out something you don't like, you call them Hitler or nazis. Nadia never said only perfect white fetuses should be spared. She pointed out that all the anti-choice people seem to care about are the white fetuses and not the little children and single mothers that are already here and need help.

    Nadia, thank you for that. That was very well put.

  • Guest

    Muslim concentration camp? When did we start putting Muslims into concentration camps? Sentencing anyone to die in a concentration camp is wrong! You people keep calling us nazis, and here you are advocating we put Muslims into concentration camps and kill women for getting pregnant, like the nazis did! What is wrong with you? Your suggestion is very sick and raciest!

  • Ellen Collins

    Hey “Guest”, I've never heard of a right wing Christian Taliban member! However, I DO know that Tiller took the lives of thousands of babies with the expressed consent of the mothers of those babies. They were innocent children, who, given a choice, would have wanted to live. Murder is murder. They were innocent children. Tiller was NOT innocent, he was a grown man who lived his life and CHOSE to kill innocent babies. It is beyond me how ANYONE, besides that murderer JARIZPE, can possibly defend him or the horrible way he made money. Wake up people, that man was a millionaire because he KILLED BABIES!

  • Ellen Collins

    yes Mary, I have had that same experience. I carried the child until she died while still in my womb. I didn't chose to have her brain sucked out of her head and end her life myself. There was no agonizing decision, I let nature, God or whomsoever you care to name, take control, and I assure you, it was an unhappy time. At no time would I ever consider murdering her because it was a more convenient road to take. Any pregnant woman who willfully chooses to end the life of her baby is a MURDERER. I will never know how these women can ever live with themselves after doing such a barbaric, horrible thing. And remember, Tiller did his handywork on babies that were almost full term! How can anyone defend such a thing?!

  • Julie

    Too bad Randall Terry and Scott Roeder weren't aborted.Rot in hell Roeder,your day is coming.

  • Guest

    That's because you are a member of it but don't like the name. It implies that imposing your religious views on others is wrong. You don't believe that is wrong, of course. If the president declared today that we were now a christian nation, would rewrite all are laws based on the bible, and everyone had to convert to some branch of christianity, you would be thrilled. If, instead, he said we were a wiccian nation, you would be horrified and scream that he is infringing on your religious beliefs and rights. How ironic you are happy to be mean to others and call them names like “baby killer” or “nazi” yet can't handle it when people call you a member of the christian taliban.

    One of the most important things the christian taliban groups feel it must accomplish, after banning gays and lesbians from the country, is to ban abortion. They call it baby killing and the people who do it nazis. They advocate that people kill those doctors and bomb the clinics. You have been cheering this man's death, meaning that you have been contributing to their belief that killing doctors is right. Furthermore, once the fetus is born, you don't show any signs of caring for it. This is also important to the christian taliban members. Babies are a punishment for having sex so it would be wrong to help single mothers that can't care for new her baby because that would interfere with her punishment. Instead, you say “give it up for adoption” yet do not adopt any children yourself. Adopting children is the responsibility of others, not you. Like a good christian taliban member, you put the life of the fetus above the mother, the baby, and anyone else that has already been born.

  • usa

    I'm pro-choice, and if it was my choice I would've shot Titler as well.

  • jarizpe

    thank you mary

  • jarizpe

    wow… ellen collins my daughter's head was not cut off nor wasa pair off scissors pushed into the bottom of her brain. The truth? I was there! I was awake for her birth. I saw it all, i held her for hours afterward. and dispite her deformities she was beautiful. She'd be 8 this year. Look, we've been arguing for days now, neither one of us is gonna give, so…. You're right, i am responsible for “killing” her. I ultimatley am the one who signed the paperwork to end her life. But i'd do it again if i was put in the same situation. I never claimed to be a martyr, but if you're so hell bent on being PRO LIFE, start from the top, late term abortion is legal. Be proactive in changing the laws, why would you harass the ppl who are acting according to the laws? Instead of wasting your money on Roeder's defense fund, put it in the March of Dimes foundation or some organization aimed in helping babies who are sick. Or be a foster mom or adopt. Dont just sit there and talk shit. dont reply back bc im tired of explaing myself… I know i did the right thing for myself and her. I dont need your approval. if ever you get the nerve to kill a “murderer”… Let it be me. I'd love to be the reason you rot in jail.

  • Brandon Kerr

    No, he did not commit murder. He killed to save the lives of thousands of innocent babies who had no choice in being conceived by their heartless mothers. Abortion is murder, but the abortions this monster performed were appalling. May God bless the man that sacrificed the rest of his life by taking out this monster when the government failed to act.

  • Brandon Kerr

    If someone was about to kill you and I walked up and stopped it with a bullet, would I be a murderer? No, I'd be a hero. That man saved countless numbers of lives by killing that animal named Tiller.

  • just me

    hey kansan at least tiller got to see his children, grandchildren and have a wife…the babies he murdered never even got to see theirs.

    I oppose what was done to this monster, killing a murderer isnt the answer and no I dont believe that is how a true christian should handle it,,,,but now that he's gone, good riddens.

  • just me

    I have to add this after reading thru alot of this. I really feel the need to stress killing people like Tiller isnt the answer, there will always be another piece of crap like him that earns a living off of murdering unborn children. the answer is to truly educate people about human life and how it an unborn child truly does feel what is being done to them and yes it is ending a life–not a bunch of cells. We need to handle it right.

    AND i do feel the need to defend SOME not all women who have made the choice to have an abortion. We cannot judge or attack some who have done this. We werent in their shoes, we dont know. They need forgiveness–just as we do for things we do wrong each and every day. And God knows–some of these women really do suffer for their choice to end their babies life. What they need is our compassion not us saying they are useless. The women who use abortion as birth control are as bad as Tiller and the people who continue to have sex like animals and abort because its an inconvience are like Tiller, those are who we need to be disgusted with…not women who thought they were doing what was best and have to live with that horrible choice. Ellen I'm sorry I agree with most of what you say,,but you need to shed some of that anger and judgement–its not how God wants us to be.

  • Ellen Collins

    You know, I would agree with you, but our society has stopped being “judgemental” for too long. That's exactly what those abortionists, Obamaites, et al, want us to do… be non-judgemental, then they can do whatever they want to do. Mark my words, euthenasia will be next, and there will be people telling others not to be “judgemental”. It's about time that we let reason back into our lives! How can we show our children the difference between right and wrong, good and evil, if we aren't “judgemental”?! How can we have a society that is not a society that disposes of our weak and sick if we don't stand up to it? We had better START getting A LOT MORE judgemental and STOP letting ourselves be silenced by the army of the “POLITICALLY CORRECT”!

  • gossamer

    If the shooter was such a “saint” why did he run and hide? Saint John The Baptist didn't run and hide. Jesus didn't run and hide. Saint Francis didn't run and hide. The shooter ran and hid because he was a coward and he knew he violated God's Commandment; “Thou shalt not kill.” Plain and simple, he knew what he did was wrong, it was against God's law, and it was an act of cowardice. That's now how we define a saint.

  • gossamer

    He DID commit murder and he also committed killing. The killing might be religiously justified by some, but murder is a legal term, not a biblical one. And in the eyes of American/Kansas law, what the shooter did was legally-speaking, MURDER plain and simple. Religiously, you might view it as justifiable killing. That's your prerogative. But to pretend that because in SOME interpretations Christian law it's forgivable by God doesn't mean that he also has to abide by the laws of the state in which he resides “Render unto Ceasar…”

  • gossamer

    Where does Jesus say “Go ahead and be more judgemental?” Oh wait, is it here?

    Matt. 7 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.”

  • gossamer

    NO! actually, it may very well be murder. Unless you are a police officer and depending on your state, the law DOES NOT give you the right to use deadly force to protect the life of someone else. The law only gives you the right to use deadly force if you or someone you love are threatened with possible death.

    Now, might you want to go ahead and intervene and kill the suspected murderer? YES! But the fact is, you would then HAVE to suffer the consequences. You would have to possibly stand trial, and you might go to jail. Personally, I'd rather go to face a jury and possible jail knowing I saved a life and live without either knowing someone died and I could have stopped it. HOWEVER, you HAVE To face the consequences of your actions. All this talk about exonerating the man who killed Tiller sounds awefully hyprocritical. Do “right” as your God defines, it, but you have to be willing to face the consequences.

  • gossamer

    A LOT of faulty memory and grandstanding here from people who appear to only be capable of talking sh*t on the internet: They swung from a rope in neuremburg, AFTER a trial. And the fact is, it WAS illegal to “break down the doors of a concentration camp” and kill the comander. That's why American soldiers (like my grandfather and uncles) took them prisoner, made them stand trial, and only after they were convicted and sentenced to death, did they kill them.

    Jesus was adamant about killing, it is wrong in all cases. If you're against abortion there are ample ways to prevent an abortion from doing there job without killing anyone. To condone this act of murder is hypocritical. The commandment “THOU SHALT NOT KILL” is pretty clear cut; there are NO qualifiers in there about guilt or innocence. If EVERYone would abide by that law, this would all be a lot better off.

  • gossamer

    Uh, so you do call yourself a Jew or a CHRISTian????? That's what I thought.

  • Ellen Collins

    I'm not Jesus… and neither are you, so forgive me if I scoff at your biblical quotation. The bible is a wonderful GUIDE but I believe that that is all that it is… a GUIDE. So Mr. or Ms. Gossamer, with all your quotations, where does it say that a murderer of innocent children to the tune of thousands, come into play with all your quotations? I think that it is quite amusing that someone like Tiller or the mother who murdered her child will get a pass based upon your quotation in Matthew, but God forbid anyone says that THEY are murders… the people who maintain that THEY are the wrong ones are your targets. Unbelieveable.

  • Ellen Collins

    You are beneath contempt.

  • Godiva

    In that case, why didn't he kill his children & grandchildren? Didn't they deserve to die like the others???
    He is a disgusting human being and now he has to meet his maker!

  • alex1976

    Many of you say this man was a monster a person that got what was coming to him or he killed himself and that is what he got. But what you dont see how can you say that if you are not GOD only he can judge and he is the one that gave us a choice so if you have a problem of his work that this great man did then take it up with the big man upstairs! Tell me what does a female do if they get raped or she is on drugs and is in no way to take care of a child, what shall they do? But who are you all to judge! I say you pepole that do the extrem to prove your point GOD is watching you and you will answer to him.To Mr. Tiller may you R.I.P and for all of the rest of you that have a problem with him oh well right.

  • Cath

    I'm unsure, but was Tiller killed by the man who was outraged at the death of a 14-15 yr old girl who died during an abortion procedure at his clinic?

    BTW Has anyone listened to Gianna Jessen's speech at Victorian Parliament, Australia on the eve of the debate to decriminilise Abortion (Australian Law Reform Bill 2008 being passed in spite of Gianna speaking to parliamentarians prior?) EMILY'S List now in Australia and insidiously having infitrated our parliamentary system saw to that!!! Gianna Jessen is an abortion-survivor, and she's a true Christian, but she's not afraid to condemn what's evil. There's “judging” and there's telling it like it is! And no murderer deserves praise!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPF1FhCMPuQ
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8B1nKGIAeg&NR=1

  • ZEKE

    Who would have ever thought that, 50 years ago, so many people would be outraged that a dirty SOB like George Tiller would one day get what he deserved?

  • ZEKE

    One often hears a “pro-choicer” complain that abortion foes contradict themselves in favoring capital punishment. That's because these “pro-choicers” can't tell the difference between a full-term aborted fetus and a Jeffrey Dahmer or a Ted Bundy. All “pro-choicers” are opposed to at least one abortion. But few,if any, have the acumen to deduce which one that would be.

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  • Cath

    Zeke, I agree with what you say!

    Can I add:-
    It is obvious that Scott Roeder by killing Dr Tiller has acted in defence of innocent late-term babies and mothers who are also harmed psychologically and physically by the crime of Abortion. Whilst Roeder's passionate act was “legally” wrong, no doubt he was outraged and emotionally overwrought by the evil child killings committed by Tiller. He was prepared to sacrifice his own freedom and life by executing this heinous monster! Roeder took the law into his own hands, because THERE IS NO LAW to protect these defenceless babies from cold-blooded murder, and that is exactly what it is! Herod too killed “The Innocents” and he was considered wicked, naturally…

    “A sound is heard in Ramah,
    the sound of bitter weeping.
    Rachel is crying for her children;
    she refuses to be comforted,
    for they are dead.”

    Scott Roeder has actually saved thousands of innocent babies' lives and another “death clinic” has been closed down! Thank God for his sacrifice – he killed a cold-blood murderer who could not be stopped, and took the punishment Tiller really deserved. And God have mercy on the soul of Dr Tiller – but the babies he tortured and murdered felt extreme pain whilst dying, and Dr Tiller showed no mercy on them!

    And women's rights indeed! What about the rights of the babies (many female) murdered in their mother's wombs or on the way out, before they even have the ability to cry out that they don't want to die? Oh that's right, a baby's cries can only be heard after they're born!!

  • Cath

    In retrospect, as a Christian, I admit it is a terrible thing to be shot in the face and killed, Butr who is the real murderer here? Can't people see and understand the frustration and outrage of a man who was so overwhelmed to the point of insanity at the injustice of a legal system which allows defenceless children to be so cruelly murdered, and actually exhonerates such a murderer? This world is very sick…

    May God forgive Dr Tiller and have mercy on his poor soul I say again. He no doubt had some sort of personality disorder and must have been a very sick man is all I can say! And he actually attended a church! What kind of Christian church would allow him to think what he was doing was okay? Why didn't his pastor/priest correct him? Perhaps he had lots of money to donate – maybe sixty silver coins? Tiller is not alone in his guilt, but shares it with his church, his supporters, and the government!

    Yes, “Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord” and all that, but as a human being, I have the right to express that child killers and those who condone such are not high in my estimation! I've said enough for the moment…

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    Either way, a baby dies, and a mother is injured for the rest of her life…

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  • sierra

    Amen to that! Anyone who thinks this piece of shit deserved to live after what he did to those innocent babies are just as messed up as he was. The man who 'murdered' him-or should I say, aborted this filth from the world should be given a medal!