CELEBRITY SCALES: The ‘Jon & Kate’ Sideshow: Star-Studded Legal Commentary for the Celebrity Obsessed

By Matt Semino, ESQ. • on June 26, 2009

On Monday night’s much hyped episode of TLC’s wildly popular “Jon & Kate Plus 8,” the Gosselins announced that they are divorcing.  Documents to initiate a legal split were conveniently filed in Pennsylvania on the afternoon just prior to the show’s airing which drew a record 10.6 million viewers.  A mutual “agreement” on child sharing arrangements also appeared magically by the show’s scheduled time slot.  Monday night’s episode was the most-watched program ever in TLC’s history and it had the highest ratings for any cable TV show this year.  The episode also broke the record set by the “Jon & Kate” season premiere which brought in 9.6 million viewers.  Even with all of its ratings records and devoted followers, the season five spectacle has had a tacky, carnivalesque quality to it.  Fruitless attempts have been made to masquerade the underlying sadness of the troupe members’ actual lives through illusionary tricks and sparkling costumes.  It is really hard to take this shtick seriously anymore.  The Gosselin’s adventures, filled with gratuitous cross promotions and product placements, are simply not genuine, enjoyable to watch or even believable for that matter.  Anyone who still thinks “Jon & Kate” is a cute depiction of an authentic American family needs to get a reality check on this reality mess.

Despite stellar ratings, TLC made the surprise announcement that it is placing “Jon & Kate” on hiatus and will resume filming again in August.  The channel claims that the break will give everyone time to regroup and that when the show returns, a new modified schedule will be in place to support the family’s transition.  Is a one month pause even enough for this disaster in the making?  Given the Gosselin’s fragile circumstances, should this circus continue rolling?  If so, what message does that send about the values espoused by Jon and Kate as parents as well as all parties involved in promoting the show?  By continuing to peer at the “Jon & Kate” sideshow, is the public also complicit in enhancing the Gosselin’s notoriety at the expense of their non-consenting children?

John and Kate Plus Eight

John and Kate Plus Eight

This season’s viewers have witnessed the rapid but predictable deterioration of the Gosselin’s marriage.  While the children are still adorable, Jon and Kate have demonstrated less sympathetic personality traits.  The extensive media coverage of the couple’s crumbling relationship has been replete with rumors of infidelity and petty fighting.  The tension between the two parents has been evident in the tone, body language and emotions that each has displayed during their separately filmed interviews.  Adding to the chaos was an investigation by the Pennsylvania Department of Labor into the show’s possible violation of child labor laws, an allegation that TLC as well as Jon and Kate have vehemently denied.  All of this negative reporting has only further exposed this family’s internal discord and led some segments of the public to look less favorably on the couple, their parental choices and their stated motivations for continuing with the show.

The decision to move forward with filming the Gosselin’s separation process is undeniably an exploitation of a family’s deterioration for financial gain.  Many will chalk this scenario up to the whims of a free market.  While Jon and Kate’s exhibitionist tendencies may give them the resolve to endure this type of exposure, their motivation to keep their children at the center of the public malaise is highly suspect.  These are children who will be experiencing one of the most emotionally vulnerable periods of their lives in front of a camera simply to continue satisfying their parent’s personal and material desires.  Doesn’t it seem odd that any parent would justify this form of invasiveness as a character building exercise or positive life learning experience for their young ones?  That the show is the Gosselin’s primary source of income is also a feeble excuse for these actions.  Just like many other devoted parents do, there are multiple ways to support a family without resorting to such crass forms of exhibitionism.

The legions of “Jon & Kate” fans have responded to critics by claiming that the show brings to light the joys and difficulties of raising children and now possibly even the sensitive issue of divorce.  Many Jon and Kate supporters feel that they can relate to the Gosselin’s experiences, both good and bad, and are even inspired by their story.  Jon and Kate, at this point in time, are relatable to other parents only in so much as they have kids too.  The impact of their tabloid celebrity and new economic status on the family’s personality and life experiences has removed them from the day to day realities of the majority of their audience.  Jon and Kate have undone themselves.  Ultimately, the Gosselin’s have allowed their life to become more of a carnival curiosity than any model of what a cohesive family should follow or aspire to be.

What began as an endearing yet honest account of a young couple confronted with the triumphs and stresses of raising multiples has also morphed into a multimillion dollar business led primarily by Kate.  The “Jon & Kate Plus 8” franchise is now complete with merchandise, best selling books, overflowing book signings at malls, public speaking engagements and repeated tours of the national talk show circuit.  The public can’t seem to get enough.  The commercial success of “Jon & Kate” has even spawned a series of copycat shows centered on families with multiple children thereby creating a disturbing and just plain weird new genre of reality TV.  From statements made during many of their interviews, it is evident that Jon and Kate believe at their core that the opportunities provided to their children as a result of the show are a trade off for the microscopic coverage of their personal lives.  Kate has admitted that she knew this type of scrutiny came with the territory but believed it was worth the benefits her family could derive from the exposure.  While Jon and Kate love and discipline their children in much the same way as other good parents do and should be commended for those qualities, it is their judgment concerning what constitutes positive opportunities for their family and how to attain them that is seriously misguided and damaging.

Although the “Jon & Kate” drama has been a publicity and financial windfall for TLC, its advertisers and the Gosselins, it is obvious that the show’s success has come at a severe cost to the stability of this reality TV family.  The sad story told in this week’s episode is just the tip of the iceberg of the more complex problems to come, particularly those that are legal in nature.  As the couple moves forward with their formal divorce proceedings, difficult questions over child custody, visitation rights, alimony and the division of $10 million worth of marital assets will be debated.  These complicated issues are likely to be battled out publicly between Jon and Kate and their respective lawyers.  If history is the litmus test for the future, most of these battles will even be staged for the cameras.  To be sure, the tabloids and paparazzi will be lurking outside the gates of the Gosselin’s pristine multimillion dollar home just waiting to capture every sordid twist and turn of this ongoing saga.
Ultimately, what has recently emerged from the Gosselin’s circus tent is the evident difference in aspirations and future life goals held by Jon and Kate, exposing the modern rift between a career-minded mom and a stay-at-home dad.  While Jon clearly embraces the financial rewards of his involvement with the show, he is now seeking freedom from the daily constraints and responsibilities of the family and marriage that generated this success.  The weekend prior to the Gosselin’s announcement, he was seen looking for luxury apartments in New York City.  On the other hand, Kate, with burning ambition and drive in her eyes and a somewhat delusional sense of self-importance, is using the show as a platform to become a bona fide television personality.  She is working to symbolize and capitalize on the experiences of a target demographic; mothers with young children and now even single mothers.  The role seems to be a natural fit for her and in a peculiar way she is finding success with it.  Perhaps Kate will achieve new heights in expanding her brand.  It is still too early to tell.  What is clear now though is that Kate has managed to liberate herself from the image of a simple mom raising multiples in suburban Pennsylvania and transform herself into a much more polished, media savvy and jet-setting persona.  Perhaps Kate provides a glimmer of hope to some mothers that they too could become like her some day.  This phenomenon makes sense as Hollywood’s currency has always been its aspirational element.

As it was the cameras that mixed and then baked the ingredients of Kate’s newfound celebrity, it seems logical that she would refute claims that those same cameras had anything to do with her failed marriage.
“It’s the next chapter, not a chapter that’s been brought on by our show,” she said. “I believe that it’s a chapter that probably would have played out had the world been watching or not.”

Whatever the real reasons may be for the end of Jon and Kate’s relationship, it is undeniable that their love of the limelight, particularly Kate’s, mixed together with a voyeuristic media circus has exposed the chasms in their partnership and contributed to the downfall of their marriage.  Despite continuous statements by Jon and Kate that they only did the show for their children and that the children remain their number one priority, it was Jon and Kate, not their children, who invited the cameras and the subsequent mayhem into their home in exchange for fame and fortune.  In fact, Jon and Kate have been the primary beneficiaries of the show’s financial success.  The children have simply been the props used to lure viewers in and then keep the reality train moving forward.  The intense interest in the Gosselin family is understandable though.  It is not everyday that the public is able to look into the private home of a multi-racial family composed of a set of twins and sextuplets living in suburban Pennsylvania.  They are definitely different.  With just two boring kids, everyone knows there would be no “Jon & Kate.”

Placing the entire family and now its dirty laundry on public display has become the Gosselin’s livelihood.  The decision to continue with the show is proof that Jon and Kate do not want to bite the hand that feeds them.  Unfortunately, they lack a certain level of introspection necessary to be the positive role models of parenting that many hold them out to be.  Jon and Kate just don’t seem phased by or willing to accept the fact that the show has and will continue to create problems for their family’s life.  While it is an admirable goal for parents to want to provide their children with more material wealth and life experiences than what they may have had, to what lengths should they go to achieve this goal?  Also, where is the line drawn between what a parent is trying to achieve for their own personal gain and societal advancement versus what they are doing solely to promote and protect the best interests of their children?  Jon and Kate have fooled themselves and tried to manipulate the public into thinking these two outcomes are one in the same.  They are not.  While it may not be illegal but should be, it is highly unethical to use children, who have no true decision making capacity, as the tools to generate the primary source of income for a family.  This is particularly so when the basis of the income generation is through the blatant public exposure of those children’s private lives and emotions?  For the Gosselin children, unlike child actors, there is no separation between their real life and their work.  People need to wake up and be reminded that we no longer live in a feudal society where it was important to have multiple children to perform the labor of the fields.

Sure, the Gosselin kids now live in a multimillion dollar home with sprawling land to drive around on their motorized miniature cars and play house.  Sure, they have been on all-expenses-paid ski trips and jaunts to Hawaii.  Yes, in this sense, they are very fortunate.  On the flip side, they also now live in a home environment facing the ugly consequences that result from chasing notoriety at the expense of family unity.  Despite Jon and Kate’s public protestations, it becomes hard to believe that all of the free toys, comped vacations and money in the bank can feel as good to possess knowing that the very thing that brought those material possessions into your family is also contributing to its demise.  If the Gosselin children are going to continue to be exploited and exposed to the media storm engulfing their family, they should at least have their future rights to any income earned from their participation in the show and as subjects of the books and products affiliated with the series be legally protected.  What mechanisms, if any, have been put in place by Jon and Kate to ensure that the majority of the funds generated off of their children’s names are set aside and waiting for each of them once they reach adulthood?  This topic oddly never seems to be relevant or an important point of discussion for Jon and Kate or their show.  Perhaps everyone in the Gosselin family is too busy having fun traveling to the next destination to focus on some of the life planning issues that actually matter.

The uncertainty about what the Gosselin’s future will look like and how it will be depicted through their show will likely keep many viewers on the edge of their seats eager with anticipation.  Their scheduled return to primetime in August will undoubtedly be couched in drama and suspense to ensure another TLC ratings record and a flood of advertising dollars.  Now and until that time, the same simple question remains.  Is it all worth it?  At the height of their fame and wealth and just hungering for more, Jon and Kate have answered this question with a resounding “Yes!”  Should we even be surprised?  Absolutely not.  Jon and Kate were aware from the beginning of the murky waters they were jumping into with their children.  They still dove in heads first.  The Gosselin’s attitude and world view are merely a reflection of a value that has come to pervade our society.  Attaining wealth and fame for many is the blinding end goal to be achieved at any cost and no matter what you have to peddle to get it.  In this case, the peddled pieces are the Gosselin children.  The overarching sentiment embedded in this precept is that the negative consequences of the pursuit can be endured as long as the pot of gold is waiting on the other side.  Jon and Kate are the newest case study of those willing to push the boundaries of this interesting sociological development.  We’ll just have to wait and see how their eight children feel about being the test subjects of their parent’s experiment.

Matt Semino is a New York attorney and legal commentator.  He is a graduate of Columbia Law School, Cornell University and is a Fulbright Scholar.

Follow Matt Semino on Twitter: @MattSemino

Contact Matt Semino at Matt@MattSemino.com

  • E. Rich
    It is abominable what these parents are doing to their kids for money and fame! There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that the courts should intervene and prevent these kids from continuing to be exploited by their parents and TLC. Stop Jon and Kate!
  • Serena Leigh Bell, SaHM
    This article is supercalifragilisticexpialidocious! A must read for every apiring child advocate. Of course being a veteran child advocate I could have written the same sort of article. Just because I'm a stay at home mom (SaHM) doesn't mean that I can't match wits with a person who has a Juris Doctorate (J.D.). I watched Erin Brockovich! I have seen my share of Law and Order. Sheesh! I have probably watched more hours of legal themed television than most law students have studied to graduate and pass the bar exam! I digress. Great article.

    PS. Please don't go to the following websites:


    GWoP without Pity
    [The "'Gosselins without Pity' without Pity" blog]: http://gwop-without-pity.blogspot.com/

    Crown Princess Marie Chantal of Greece - Gosselins Without Pity: http://princessmc.proboards.com/index.cgi?board...
  • Zoe Johanson
    I find it hard to believe that if you truly did not want others to go visit the websites listed in your PS you would include the links to them. Apparently, you are actually trying to drum up business for these sites.
  • Sharla (NMRN)
    Wow, no flies on you.
  • I LOVE THE KREIDERS
    Please send your LOVE GIFTS and LOVE LETTERS to:

    Kevin A. Kreider / Jodi R Kreider
    34 Shefford Dr Elizabethtown, Pennsylvania 17022
  • Serena Leigh Bell
    I would like to say that this article was very well written. I wish Gosselins Without Pity had the same sort of content. Unfortunately most of the bloggers on Gosselins Without Pity don't have any formal education so there you have it. Lots of them are stay at home mothers who could only dream of having the lifestyle that Kate enjoys. Some of their comments are clouded by their envy. It's too bad. Thanks again for writing such a great article.
  • Christie
    Debbie, quit posting as Serena. Get a life!!!!
  • Kat, PHD
    I agree Christie. See I use my PHD to spend time surfing the net. I do it for the children. first, I go to gwop so TPTB can tell me what to think. Then, since I put my PHD to good use by obsessing over a tv show, I spew my vapid opinions and frauspeak all over the internet.
  • Sharla Smith, SaHM
    This article is supercalifragilisticexpialidocious! A must read for every apiring child advocate. Of course being a veteran child advocate I could have written the same sort of article. Just because I'm a stay at home mom (SaHM) doesn't mean that I can't match wits with a person who has a Juris Doctorate (J.D.). I watched Erin Brockovich! I have seen my share of Law and Order. Sheesh! I have probably watched more hours of legal themed television than most law students have studied to graduate and pass the bar exam! I digress. Great article.

    PS. Please don't go to the following websites:


    GWoP without Pity
    [The "'Gosselins without Pity' without Pity" blog]: http://gwop-without-pity.blogspot.com/

    Crown Princess Marie Chantal of Greece - Gosselins Without Pity: http://princessmc.proboards.com/index.cgi?board...
  • Sharla
    This Sharla is just another troll. The children are out of school for summer vacation.
  • Sharla Smith's Neighbor
    I have finally come forward. I am a neighbor of Sharla Smith. Let me tell you that Sharla Smith doesn't post on this website. Sharla Smith is too busy fighting for children that are being abused by fame and fortune and cute little houses and celebrity. Abused I say!

    Sharla Smith was once my lover and we had a falling out over Jenny Craig vs Slim Fast. I am a Slim Fast man but Sharla was so into Jenny Craig that she told the store where I bought my Slim Fast that she was going to boycott them unless they pulled Slim Fast off the shelves. Since Sharla has a way with words and pretty hefty forearms the strore manager relented.

    Let me tell you I am so glad Sharla is out of my life. She was and probably still is a selfish lover. All she liked to do was have sex doggystyle. I think she did this so she didn't have to see my face and then she could fantasize that I was David Hasselhoff.

    Sharla is a stay at home mom but really she doesn't stay home that much. I think she is banging one of the bums downtown. The guy is filthy but he looks kind of like David Hasselhoff.
  • Amanda Gramlich
    COUNSELING WOULD HAVE DONE WONDERS. Did they try that to show the world you have to work at a marriage?
  • LT
    Completely Agree
  • E. Rich
    Great point Amanda! They always have time for the fun stuff but not really any of the stuff that is really going to make a genuine difference in their or their children's lives. So shallow and typical!
  • hollywood3001
    These two really need to get a grip on reality. Isn't that ironic..
  • d.c.
    i think the courts should freeze all the money made from the show from J&K and keep it for the children. afterall it is THEIR money in the end. its all for them! J&K should go make their own money, get normal jobs, one that doesnt involve your kids! that would make it more of a "reality" show.
  • S. Sidley
    d.c...very good idea. Didn't even think of that!
  • Beejcctx
    Please folks, these kids are nothing more than the modern equivalent of the Dionne Quintuplets: with every moment videotaped for the cameras and shown pretty much 24/7 every where. The show went from being fairly sweet to this train wreck because the parents seem to be greedy. Did they really NEED a 1.1 MILLION mansion? $1,600/day bodyguard for the wife? Will these poor kids ever see a PENNY of the money their childhood's earned? ALL CHILDREN IN ENTERTAINMENT - whether scripted or not - need the SAME compensations across the board in all 50 states - as California enacted, along with a new version of "Coogan's Law" to protect their earnings. I agree with this author that their monies should be secured for them - but let's also FREE THE GOSSELIN EIGHT!!!!
  • horrified
    On this so-called reality show, and surrounding publicity blitz, I have seen petty fighting, hitting and humiliating children out of anger and frustration, name calling, lying, profiteering, disrespect and many many other examples or negative parenting. Don't get me wrong, I don't know any perfect parents, but these people (especially Kate) are pretending they are paragons of parenting virtue for ratings and monetary advantage.

    I would ask these bozos to get the kids of the show. If they want to continue the publicity, the limelight, and all the trappings of celebrity and they can sustain it on their own, all power to them. But the kids deserve privacy. They also deserve loving, caring and nurturing parents. The surest bet is privacy
  • hollywood3001
    horrified..you are right on!
  • Laura
    Matt - Your article was so insightful. I really enjoyed your thoughtful look into Gosselin gravy train mess.

    You hit the nail on the head with this section below:

    "Unfortunately, they lack a certain level of introspection necessary to be the positive role models of parenting that many hold them out to be. Jon and Kate just don’t seem phased by or willing to accept the fact that the show has and will continue to create problems for their family’s life."

    Kate is so blinded by her own ambition that she will screw her children over any day of the week.
  • LisaK
    My son came home from elementary school the other day and asked me what a Queef was. I told him to go sit down in the kitchen. I went over to him and bent over in front of his face a let fly a fart. I told him that was a queef. The object of the story is that people shouldn't ask stupid questions without being prepared for the answers. Kate, I hope you are reading this and amend your ways before someone bigger and better than you Queefs in your face.


    More smore anecdotes and pearls of wisdom visit me at: http://lisakn16.wordpress.com/
  • hollywood3001
    Laura - Great point..isn't it sad what some people will do purely for money and fame!?
  • Chaos
    Finally, a reasoned, intelligent look at the horrifying situation that has come to be the Gosselin family. Over & over again Jon & Kate say that doing the show and exposing the lives of their children is being done for the children, but the only clear beneficiaries to date are Jon & Kate. Trips aside, just what compensation have the children received for their work on this venture? Now, let's look @ Jon & Kate- a 1.1 million dollar home, body enhancing surgeries, cosmetic procedures, personal trainers, $60,000 to $80,000 vehicles for each, bodyguards, designer wardrobes, the list goes on. I have 2 children currently in college and I know what a college education at a state college costs these days. If Jon & Kate truly had their kids' futures in mind, they could have more than banked enough by now to pay for college for 8 kids-assuming the kids will even be healthy enough mentally to want to go. Too bad the living children can't be taken away & given a normal, real (not reality tv life) and instead, give Jon & Kate the artificial prop children that they so clearly wish they had. They could trot the artificial kids out for the cameras, dress them in cutesy matching outfits, and put them back into a storage shed when the filming was done. They wouldn't have to give them any money-or water for that matter. I am praying that people stop watching this horrible show (I stopped 2 years ago), and that the advertisers would pressure TLC to stop filming the show altogether. If Sondervan Publishing, a Christian publishing house, goes ahead with the publication of Kate's next "expert how-to book" on cooking & memory making for a family, I will boycott all their publications as that would demonstrate to me that they no longer can be respected as a Christian publishing house.
  • L_Coaster
    Chaos, when the 'tups were born the governor of Pennsylvania jumped on the Welcome Wagon and gave full ride State College scholarships to each of the 6. So in actuality the K&J mess only needs to provide for the twins. At 75G per episode, if these 2 poor excuses for parents can't put away enough $$$ for 2 kids to go to college, the +8 need to sue the crap out of their parents on the grounds their childhood was stolen by money grubbing parents and the children have nothing to show for it, except for years and years of therapy. Take that multimillion dollar home and sell it for whatever they can get and let J&K live out the remainder of their days in the poor house, where most parents of 8 who don't have jobs would live today.

    Whatever this show claims it started out to be, it has completely jumped the track as it turned into a voyeurs playground. If it was supposed to be about any couple, who out of all fault of their own end up parents of 8, each who thinks more highly of themselves than each other or their kids, then TLC knocked one out of the ball park. If it was supposed to show the day to day effort a young couple needs to raise 8 little bundles of joy, then TLC needs to dump J&K and bring in a couple who actually do work together, while also holding down real jobs, all while caring for their kids and each other. It's a huge assignment, one that J&K obviously weren't up to taking.

    Since moving on Jon has managed to be photographed with at least 3 young women, the first 2 before they filed for divorce. Dressing more like a pre-teen than a 32 yr old father of 8. Maybe he was jealous of the cute clothes his kids were given to wear on the show. Apparently Jon is in serious talks about taking a job with a well known clothing designer who's market group was previously the 12 to 22 yr olds who's parents were shelling out big bucks for their kids to wear clothing with someone else's name all over it. Possibly the designer thinks Jon is today's image of any man/father who is willing to shell out big bucks to keep looking like a kid, while raising kids of his own. If this is what they think, I hope they are mistaken. Personally I never wanted to be mistaken for my kids older sibling, in how I behave or what I wear.

    Kate's projects have been put on hold, with the exception of being a featured speaker in October, for a project Maria Shiver is working on. She was signed on before her troubled marriage came to light, at the urging of Shriver's daughters who are huge fans of the show. So far she is still scheduled, we'll see what happens as the date gets closer. Kate has always had some strange fixation with making memories for her kids. Apparently she doesn't realize when she threatens to throw away her son's favorite snugly. because it got a little chewing gum on it, she is making memories, just not the kind she constantly brings up on the show. Or making her daughter sell a Christmas ornament at a garage sale, that her grandpa gave her before he passed away, she is making another memory. Kate seems to think memories are scheduled events, put together very carefully by her where the children are brought in at the last minute and it's handed to them tied up in a bow. I feel sorry for her, when in the future she puts on a slide show for her grown kids and they have little to no memory of the events she tried to make for them, but they can remember the day she refused to leave the store without completing her purchase while her son cried and cried because he had such a bad belly ache. Or the day they went to a bake shop and decorated their own Birthday cupcakes. To begin with Kate was in high gear over the kids getting messy, she sat to the side, almost the whole time whining about stains and getting 'dirty'. After decorating, they weren't allowed to eat at the bakery like the twins did. They were told they could have them after dinner, for dessert. Then (the boys) weren't allowed to eat their cupcakes, because they didn't eat the dinner "Kate" had prepared (rules are rules, Birthdays or not). But they had to sit still at the table while their sisters ate. That was another memory made extra special by Mommy- Meanest.

    It's really too bad J&K weren't in therapy all along. It is a known fact that parents of multiples have a higher divorce rate than the norm. Another (not proven) reality seems to be people who put their lives on display in reality shows seem to have a higher divorce rate yet. Combine these with Jon's immaturity and Kate's OCD. These kids never stood a chance to grow up with 2 parents, living in the same house. I wish TLC would have pulled them off the air 2 years ago, at that time the little snipes at each other were growing bigger by the episode and the producer seemed to enjoy nothing more than pointing things out they said to or about each other, when out of ear shot, just to watch the reaction. This is when I stopped watching, I had already been thru my own and had watched too many friends crash and burn. I didn't need to watch the reality of 8 more kids becoming statistics. When mommy and daddy decided it just wasn't working for them anymore, oops too bad kiddies. We know we promised to love, honor and cherish each other. But we've decided we'd rather find someone new to love. But don't worry, we'll always love you! Just look around, see all the things people send to you? That's all because we love you so much.....
  • Chaos
    L coaster: No. I did not know that the 6 had prepaid educations. Wow-what can anyone say? Some other "childhood memories" that those poor children will be able to remember is mommy screaming and going postal because they were rolling down a grassy hill, flat-out laughing with joy, and then momster stepped in and brought that to a halt. I still maintain that both Jon and Kate would be better served with plastic mannequin children that could be posed, dressed and tossed aside as the need arises. Also, it should be noted that in their young lives, everyone and I mean everyone, who has ever crossed their mother has disappeared from their lives. Just what kind of psychological scars and fears does that instill into a child? Everything in their lives is a mirage that evaporates before their eyes. Just think, less than one year ago, their parents accepted an all expense paid trip to California & Hawaii, including new clothing and designer wedding dress for Kate to renew their vows so "the children will know that no matter what ever happens, we will always be together". Heck of a memory for the little ones right there. I just cannot imagine how they will mature into adulthood after living such a deceit filled, phony, loveless life, and having had it played out publicly. Do Jon & Kate not realize that in a very short time these children will have access to all of this that is out here on the internet. I am praying that all of the "opportunities" fall through for both parents-not out of envy, because I wouldn't trade one second of my life for any time of theirs, but in the hopes that maybe, possibly, some normalcy could enter into the lives of those children. Doubtful, but miracles can & do happen.
  • hollywood3001
    Chaos...fantastic post! You are so on the money (no pun intended) with all of your points. I really think the solution is a boycott of the advertisers, TLC and anything that has come to be associated with or is profiting from the exploitation of these children. That way, neither TLC nor Jon & Kate will be able to continue riding the gravy train. Then we'll really see what interest Jon & Kate still have in continuing to pimp their children out for public consumption if there is no more financial gain to be had!
  • nan ma
    This is the best article I've read on this whole mess.

    I hope they read it .............with some open mindedness.

    I too, stopped watching though I loved it early on. The changes were so fast and so obvious......to us as viewers.

    As far as the next book, I did write to Zondervan and stated my disdain for their promoting books that are not accurate nor truthful.

    We, the public can make a difference........we do make a difference. We buy the magazines and books and watch the shows.....there is your answer. we don't do those things and that will end it...

    We do have choice.

    Thank you for this insightful intelligent articulate article.

    Nan
    Prayers for all.
  • Sharla
    ... = satan
  • Lisa K.
    My exhusband used to call my vagina Satan! LOL. To be more precise he said that my little man in the boat, aka the clitoris, was Satan because he said my vagina smelled like the lake of fire. I'm not sure what that meant. I think he was trying to say that I was hot. I dunno. La la la. It's fun to blog.
  • Tossed My Cookies
    LisaK that is kind of gross. I was eating when I read your comment. TMI, TMI! Maybe you should pour some peroxide in it. Be careful though, because it might be like sticking a Mentos in a soda bottle. Yo' nasty!
  • Serena Leigh Bell
    I would like to say that this article was very well written. I wish Gosselins Without Pity had the same sort of content. Unfortunately most of the bloggers on Gosselins Without Pity don't have any formal education so there you have it. Lots of them are stay at home mothers who could only dream of having the lifestyle that Kate enjoys. Some of their comments are clouded by their envy. It's too bad. Thanks again for writing such a great article.
  • Serena Leigh Bell
    I would like to say that this article was very well written. I wish Gosselins Without Pity had the same sort of content. Unfortunately most of the bloggers on Gosselins Without Pity don't have any formal education so there you have it. Lots of them are stay at home mothers who could only dream of having the lifestyle that Kate enjoys. Some of their comments are clouded by their envy. It's too bad. Thanks again for writing such a great article.
  • Christie
    Kate (or Baby Mama),
    You're off searching the web and faking comments again? Did either of you happen to read the article? It's not Pro-Kate-Moron!
  • Monty
    Envy? Or concern for innocent children? Hmmmmmmmm...... I can't think of anyone who is envious of spray tan, so I'm going to go with the latter. It doesn't take a Masters Degree to recognize that something is rotten in the state of Pennsylvania.

    In any case, this is an excellent article. I enjoyed reading it much more than the speculative trash at the supermarket.
  • Oh no - this is so funny. You didn't read the article, did you? It's good. Has nothing to do with GWOP. Give it a try,
  • Elle
    Excuse me? No formal education? I have two masters and 28 years of experience in my job thank you very much! I've never ever been a stay at home mom--- what I HAVE been is someone who has worked with abused kids most of my life.

    As far as 'having the lifestyle that Kate enjoys'....I have it and more...
    You see, I not only have a nice house, but the respect of my family and friends, my place as a contributing member of society and most of all, I didn't prostitute my children for one damn penny of what I've earned. Oh, yes, and I'm sane. Not a malignant narcissist who can't have a normal, stable relationship.

    To accuse anyone of being 'envious' of Kate is saying we should be envious of the child pornographers (they make millions too!) or those who deal with human trafficing (again, more money off of the backs of others).

    What I have found is that Kate fans are usually those who hate men, have miserable lives, and think money and fame are the be all and end all of human existance. No matter the cost.

    I do feel pity, and concern for those who are in their world.
  • Justwondering
    I'M A THERAPIST.
  • Elle
    And so am I.

    Except I know that typing in all caps is shouting.
  • Justwondering
    All those years of abusing kids and publishing pornography and they let you become a therapist?
  • Elle
    You're the one bragging about being an anal rapist. Our forensics units are full of your type. They don't fare so well and the meds tend to lower their cognitive capacity as well as their performance ability.

    Must suck to be you....
    the you that brags about sexual assault and approves of the Gosselin parents. No surprise.
  • justwondering
    No, I am a therapist who does analysis. pervert. do not call the body parts you keep in your deep freezer the "forensics unit."

    You are the so-called therapist who brags about abusing children and taping it to sell to your fellow pornographers.

    You must be otherwise why would you raise such nasty topics.
  • Elle
    If you were a therapist, you'd know that in mental hospitals, the units for the criminally insane are called "forensics units". Those wtih both NGRI's and GRI's.


    So yeah, you flunked that test with blazing colors.

    And, you also tried the typical 12 year old debate behavior of "you said...." and twisting it.....

    Anyone with eyes can read what I posted in the first paragraph

    "To accuse anyone of being 'envious' of Kate is saying we should be envious of the child pornographers (they make millions too!) or those who deal with human trafficing (again, more money off of the backs of others)."

    IOW, someone who admires Kate is the one on the same level with the above.

    Like you.

    I find all of the above, including you and Kate beneath contempt.

    The onus is on you dumbass.
  • Elle
    Yes, you run back here for 12 hours straight and justwondering is the crazy one.
  • LA_Plastics
    Check the timestamps dear. Like many here, you'll see a pattern of a few minutes at the beginning of the day and again, at end of the day.

    Which means, GASP! The smart posters have jobs. The trolls however, post non stop.

    Again, Kate fans are prone to exaggeration and they share Kate's IQ, as shown by their extremely poor math skills.
  • SkullandBones
    You showed them with your fierce math skills. Come back soon to obsess some more
  • Elle Rose is Crazy
    Elle or Elle Rose

    I doubt you have anything more than a GED. Your comments on GWOP betray you for the envious, uneducated, hatefilled, little monkey that you are. I also thought I read somewhere that you were telling people that you were an attorney? I doubt you even know what a bar number is let alone have one.
  • Elle
    No, I'm not Elle Rose from GWOP, your assumptions prove you a vapid fool. This is the internet. I could be Elle here, Machiavelli on Dlist, LadyGaga on Fugly, xxWonderWomanxx on YouTube and Dame Judy Densch on Facebook.

    What I am however, is educated both academically and in the ugly behaviors of bad parents towards their children in real life. I help clean up the messes that your ilk applaud.

    So pay attention, someone like Kate Gosselin is no better than a woman who sells her 4 year old for her next crack fix. Yet the horror of all this is, while most humans with an ounce of decency can recognize the vileness of the later, there are those without morals worship the former.
  • justwondering
    Are you typing with one of your four teeth?
  • Elle
    Oh please! Is that the best you can do? You, the educated therapist??

    Please, quiz me on things like why thorazine is being used less and less in clinical settings, what the newest trends are in outpatient care and treatment, what is different in the DSM IV in the last few years etc.

    I mean, otherwise, I just think I'm dealing with a typical Kate fan.
  • kelly
    Elle you are obviously an educated individual. Your posts are lucid and thought out. To justwondering.......hmmmm I am just wondering if you're Kate LOL
  • LA_Plastics
    Hmmm,
    the average 5th grader uses ous, ness, ity less and more correctly that Kate.

    Hang in there Princess.

    Or don't you have a husband to poison or a child to abuse?
  • GWOP supporter
    nothing and i mean NOTHING about Kate is worth envying.
    No family? NO friends? treat your husband like dog poo? Plastic surgery, tanning, horrible hair..all to make yourself feel like a celebrity?
    use my religion to justifiy my horrible decisions?
    No dear..there is nothing about Kate Gosselin worth envying.
    I actually feel VERY SORRY for her. She values nothing but her image in the mirror and the benjamins lining her bank account.
    What a sad little life she lives. She will realize at some point how she mishandled the entire decision to go on TV (and Jon for that matter will to).

    They are a sad bunch of people.
  • Jenny Craig.
    You type fat.
  • GWoPers Are Fatties
    Jenny Craig

    LOL. GWoppers don't wear red shirts because when they do all the children in the neighborhood yell "Hey Kool-Aid". That and they are uneducated stay at home moms that are jealous of Kate and that's why they hate.
  • Dr. Joyce
    The only Kool Aid drinkers on the 'net are the Kate fans. The polls show ~~90% of the population want the show cancelled, the show has been put on hiatus, the cookbook has been put on hold because again, ~~90% of the populace has made it clear then don't want to read it. You Tube is flooded with mock-unmentaries receiving 100's of hits a day, all in agreement and support.

    Face it, the Gosselin adults are a laughing stock and Kate is a pariah. Reality and sanity on our side.

    Delusion and stupidy appear to rule yours.

    Again, WHAT does Kate have that any normal, mentally healthy individual would want?
  • GWoPers Are Fatties
    Jenny Craig

    LOL. GWoppers don't wear red shirts because when they do all the children in the neighborhood yell "Hey Kool-Aid". That and they are uneducated stay at home moms that are jealous of Kate and that's why they hate.
  • QE II
    And your post proves you have no debating abilities so you sink to the level of a 12 year old boy. You mother must be proud.
  • Sarah
    I wrote Zondervan as well asking them to really consider whether the values that they are supposed to espouse truly match what the Gosselins stand for now. I do not think there is a match there. Write Zondervan to tell them to stop capitalizing off of the exploitation of children and lining their as well as Jon & Kate's pockets with tainted money.
  • Maximillion
    why not let the free market decide?
  • mb
    Should be required reading for these miserable idiots charading as parents. Except that I don't think their narcissistic minds are able to grasp the concept. I can only hope the courts will intercede in behalf of the children and that the remaining voyeristic programs take note.
  • Grammarian
    You've written a nice article, but it would have been nicer had you said "fazed by" rather than "phased by." That, and your use of "Gosselin's" as the plural of "Gosselin," [it should have been "Gosselins"] has diminished the generally high quality of your essay.

    The Ivy League is not without sin, obviously.
  • sciteacher
    And it's every day, not everyday. Everyday is used as an adjective - my everyday clothes, everyday chores, etc. When it happens every day, it's two words.
  • Grammarian
    Apparently, I'm sinful, as well. That comma after "Gosselins" should go after the second bracket, instead!
  • Grammarian
    The comma after the "Gosselin" in the penultimate line, I meant. Oy!
  • Bohemian Moon
    I liked the article. But and I mean But. It isn't nearly as good as the stuff on my site Musings from the Moon. I wasn't priveledged enough to go to college but I learned from the cosmos. The cosmos has taught me all that I needed to learn in this voyage that is called existence. Yes, so I am totally feeling your vibe in this article and let me tell you I know what I'm talking about. I'm a karmic mother and I know what the universe is saying. So keep writing these articles. Best of luck, but if you knew the cosmos like I do, you know that luck isn't anything real. Real is what people don't think is real and vis a vis. Yeah Baby!
  • BMwop
    BabyMama--

    Are you THAT bored ???
  • Christie
  • GailSpano
    Moon did not write this comment. The kate fans are out in full-force trying to scare Moon into closing her site.
  • SkullandBones
    Yes, Gailspano. Katefans are part of a New World Order, partly financed by the Illuminati and Rockefellers, to bring down some internet person.
  • Yes, we are. We want Bohemian Moon to go away once and for all, so that my brand new hilarious parody site will enjoy the popularity it deserves. Until fat ugly worthless stay at home moms who blog and who criticize Kate are stopped, the world is not safe for fake nails or spray tans or those who admire those with fake nails and spray tans (especially when those treatments are financed by money made by kids).

    Check out my site, y'all, and see how clever I am!
    http://gwop-without-pity.blogspot.com/

    Official Blog Of The Katefans' New World Order
  • Kat
    To the poster claiming to be Serena.

    I have a PHD in Child Psychology and and I read Gosselins' without pity and have commented there as well. To Matt, thank you for the wonderful article and I couldn't agree more.
  • Justwondering
    Matt Semino is a New York attorney and legal commentator.; Kat has a PhD in Child Psychology that's is put to good use on gossip sites; and I used to be a therapist but now I am an analrapist.
  • Kat
    Justwondering,

    What I do in my spare time outside of work or my family is quite frankly none of your business.
  • Lindsay
    Don't scare me with your PHD! You don't work. With the hatred you show, your husband must have cheatd on you and you blame yourself.
  • Kat
    well darn, added an extra and in there. Typos suck lol.
  • AreYouKidding?
    Columbia and Cornell aren't teaching grammar anymore? You can't pluralize "Gosselins" correctly? It takes away from your credibilty, and that of your site.
  • AreYouKidding?
    Replying to myself... I mean 'credibility.' Typos stink... at least I didn't spell it wrong 14 TIMES, as some things in this article...
  • For The Record
    For the record, the typo wasn't just an error in pluralization. It was also an error in possesion. If you're going to nitpick (see previous comment, I totally agree with you, AreYouKidding) grammar, at least get it right.
  • For The Record
    Oops, I meant I totally agree with elsa. Oops. Great article.
  • Grammarian
    For the Record, don't you mean that it was an error in "possession"? If you're going to use grammar terms, at least spell them correctly.

    By the way, it was an error in pluralization. The single was used when the plural was required.
  • elsa
    When you can't argue with the content (excellent article, really spot on), nitpick the grammar.
  • Francie
    Excellent summary, Matt! I agree that the Gosselins need to take your words to heart, but so far they and TLC have responded only to the most minor issues raised by critics. I would say, however, that Kate Gosselin isn't just somewhat deluded by her importance; she is entirely delusional in that regard. Furthermore, I question her competence as a parent. Screaming over a piece of gum stuck to a toy, shouting commands to her "subjects" from her white, plastic throne, and spanking an allegedly disobedient child in full view of the cameras (just to name a few of her behaviors), raise serious doubts in my mind about her parenting skills.

    FWIW, I read and post occasionally on GWOP. I am a parent, and I have a Ph.D. -- from Cornell!
  • Colleen
    Best article ever about this fiasco. I wish this attorney could be in the court representing the Gosselin children.
  • ManicNarcissism
    I am hiding in the Gosselin's hedges right now. My tin hat is picking up excellent reception today.
    AT 11:05:03, Kate began sneezing. At11:05:10, she stopped sneezing. That is why your article is right on the money.
    Must get back to the timeline. Must get back to the timeline. Must get back to the timeline.Must get back to the timeline.Must get back to the timeline.Must get back to the timeline.Must get back to the timeline.Must get back to the timeline.Must get back to the timeline.
  • MamaKate
    Amazing article!!!
  • Unabomber
    I post at GWOP and teach at Harvard. Cornell students blow goats.
  • Rebecca F.
    Wow. I never have to read another discussion about Jon and Kate again. You've summarized it beautifully.
  • gmf
    While Jon and Kate love and discipline their children in much the same way as other good parents do


    Obviously you haven't been watching? Jon appears to love the kids, but not enough to turn off the cameras or behave himself. Kate loves no one but herself and that has been obvious since season 1.
  • Phoenix thinker
    Fantastic, well written article.
    I cannot, for the life of me, how anyone can defend the current actions of the Gosselins.
    The greed is so evident in everything those 2 do-and to keep saying you are doing this "for you kids" is disgusting.
    There is nothing to envy-I enjoy my privacy, my life, my marriage, my family.
    I wouldn't trade places with those 2 for all the money in the world.
    NOT WORTH IT.
  • hollywood3001
    The only way to stop Jon & Kate and the exploitation of these children and other children in the future, is to send a strong and clear message to the channels, advertisers and publishers who promote and profit off of this garbage. Send letters, emails and now even SEND THIS ARTICLE around to anyone who cares about children's rights and will fight to boycott those who support exploitation. If people hear the messages and arguments loud enough, the much needed changes will come. Believe me, once there is no more money to be made off of the Gosselin family, Jon & Kate will be going down the reality train into the disposal where they belong!!!!
  • Aunt Jodi
    DON'T YOU DARE STEAL MY THUNDER!!!
    I will annouce it on Radar.com I want to go shopping.
  • HiThere
    Attn: Kate Fans

    If you honestly believe you know Kate better than her ex-family, ex-friends, ex-colleagues and ex-neighbors, then you are as delusional as she is.
    Wake up and stop denying the reality that has been displayed for all to see.
    The truth about Kate is being revealed and it is not pretty.
  • Aunt Jodi
    Expect another statement. I have a car payment to make.
  • Enough is enough
    BM or Kate or Kate's BM.....enough. You can't disguise who you are and if you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen - which means that your "cookbook" will be going no where.
  • Aunt Jodi
    You know how like attracts like. Did it ever dawn on you that yeah, the Gosselins are greedy, just like the people around them?
    The people you listed-- ex-family and friends have made money off the children by selling stories and interviews. Most of which is gossip and heresay. Nobody is delusional here. You need to look at the bigger picture and see all of these people are playing each other in order to make a quick buck. You want the Gosselins to go away, then you need to get rid of those around them that sell the stories.
  • Perry Mason
    If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, and eats popcorn like a duck, it's a duck.

    BTW, in their inner circle of 'friends' and family, who has come forward to refute what is being said? Who has evidence to prove the other ostrasized friends and family who are telling extremely consistant and verifiable stories.

    You can't slander or liable with the truth. The reason the Gosselins aren't refuting what is being said is they can't refute fact. That and if 20 people say they saw and heard the same thing, it's called solid evidence in a court of law. The delusional are the Kate toe suckers who will excuse any behavior she exhibits right up to murdering her kids....I can here it now "She has 8 kids! Give her a break! What would you do! Go away jealous haters."

    Hone your debate skills, come with facts and strong data and I'll listen to you all day.

    Come here as just another deluded sycophant who borders on totally mental detachment and all you'll get is pity laced with insults.
  • Kat PHD
    Wow you told them off. Fear you fat tv lawyer. I have a PHD in Child Psychology , which is much better than a Phd in Child Psychology.
  • Kat PHD
    I mock those with a Ph.D. because unlike a PHD, it actually exists.
  • Chat PhD
    Kat, with all due respect, the current way to list the terminal degree is "PhD", although "Ph.D," with the one period, is also acceptable. The "h" needs to be lower case in either instance, referring as it does to Doctoris Philosophiae.
  • Chat PhD
    Well, the two-period "Ph.D." is okay, but the "h" needs to be lower case in either instance I cited.

    Or, as they would say on GWOP, "sighted." ;-)
  • irene
    My relative raised a family of 17 children in Rural Indiana. She did this with her husband, love, respect, displine and organization. She has 17 of the best american citizens I will probably ever know. They are a loving, college educated, etc etc family. All this was done without a tv show, book deal or expensive vacations.
    I feel for the Gosselins, they really have themselves in some kind of mess. I hope and pray they reevaluate everything before it is too late. Money fame and fortune can never buy the love of a family.
  • Chaos
    My aunt & uncle also raised a family of 14 children in rural Kansas. They lived in a 3 bedroom farmhouse with no indoor plumbing until the last 4 of the children remained in the home. They are all college educated, paid for themselves through hard work and scholarships, and one is even a multi-degreed Catholic priest who served at the Vatican with the Pope. Several are published authors. All are convicted in their faith, good citizens, productive members of society and a credit to their parents. All this was accomplished with one wage earner, who was a farmer while his wife worked at home taking care of the home and family. They are loving, happy, fulfilled people. Who is the truly wealthy family-The Gosselin family, or the rural farm family?
  • Chaos' Educated Relative
    My aunt and uncle raised 14 children in rural Kansas. My uncle worked while my aunt stayed home, taking care of the children and household. They lived in a three-bedroom farmhouse. It was without plumbing for most of those years. The cousins earned their college educations through hard work and scholarships. One cousin is a Catholic priest, who has earned mutli-degrees and has served the Pontiff at the Vatican. Some of my cousins are published authors.
    My aunt and uncle succeeded in raising good citizens, strong in faith and convictions, and full of happiness.
  • Serena Leigh Bell
    My mother and father raised 3 children in rural St Louis. They were actually half brother and sister but they didn't know that on account of their father being a philanderer and a good liar. Anyhoos they only had a double wide trailer and what was once a former diary farm pasture. We grew up without much toys, but with lots of cow patties around and some natural clay we made all kinds of fun stuff like pots, toy soldiers, injuns and cowboys etc etc. Yep. There was a lot of love goin on in our trailer. Lots of fond memories. Too bad that the Gosselin children won't know any of that. They have been spoiled on riches and such. Spoiling your kids is the same as child abuse in my book. Yep.
  • Sydney
    By your own post 'anywhoos' money, no matter how gained, makes 'good' families and will negate all harm.

    So, may I use your child for my entertainment? I'll pay you millions of dollars, the only price tag is a total rape of their dignity and privacy as well as taking away all semblances of a normal childhood.

    You evil, shallow, money grubbing idiot! You make our point. Yet it seems to be the consistant with you guys "Its OK because of the money."

    My God you are contemptable, and even more pitiful, you're so soulless, you don't even have the ability to understand what is wrong with exploitation.

    I pity any child that has you as a relative, they are doomed.
  • Not the point, Sydney. The point is that the GWOP women are nothing but a bunch of jealous hateful cows who are all stay at home moms who need to find real jobs and stop blogging and criticizing Kate Gosselin, who is by far a better person and mother because she looks so tanned and toned and has fancy French fingernails. If you are slatternly and don't spend hours at the salon and spa weekly, you are nobody and are therefore not entitled to have an opinion, especially about Kate Gosselin, y'all.

    Check out my blog, y'all!
    http://gwop-without-pity.blogspot.com/
  • Three Farmers
    Oh wow remember our passionate night inside your po box. not b.o. box that was another night.
  • Sydney
    You do realize that these sock puppet posts that are nothing but personal attacks in favor of Kate just give strength and credence to the arguments that Kate is nothing but low class, tacky, ignorant and mean spirited trash. Every post you make underlines it.

    Keep posting, but all you're doing is making our point that we can discuss with facts and data and all you can do is be a child and throw insults. Which means, we've made a point that you can't refute.

    We win.
  • GWoP: #1 at online hysteria!
    "Facts" like...
    Kate and Jon are moving to NC to be closer to production!
    Pennmommy tells the truth about Kate!
    Pennmommy's son is DYING and you bitches are calling the hospital!
    Kate raped Jon to get pregnant against doctor's orders!
    Kate is beating her daughter with a closed fist!
    Kate bribed a doctor to get fertility drugs!
    Kate did not have polycystic ovarian syndrome! You have to be fat and hairy!

    and "data" like
    Kate gets paid 30,000 an episode! No, 50,000! No, 75,000! No, 150,000!
    90% of Americans want this show shut down!
    Look what I saw when I drove by their house...again!
    Kate wore a black bikini on Thursday and a blue one on Friday! HOOOOOR!

    Yeah, you win, all right.
  • Lady Katherine Neville
    My parents raised 23 children in Raby Castle while my father was the Warden of the West March. We all turned out fine, except the ones who died in childhood. My sister's children went on to become two kings of England (one of whom was a twisted usurper, but let's say no more). And only a few - well, some - well, half - of our family fought against the other half in a treasonous war of personal interest and powerbroking at the expense of Henry VI.
    We never needed some TV show to film US. We got our success the old-fashioned way: through the arrangement of fine marriages!
  • Sydney
    Stop with your nonsense.
  • Sydney the First
    You have to first refute and prove the posts to be nonsense and untrue.

    You've yet to retort with anything but childish one liners and insults; nothing worth reading.
  • Irene's Educated Relative
    My relative raised 17 children while living in rural Indiana. My relative and her husband raised their children with love, respect, and discipline. She raised all 17 of those children to be some of the best American citizens I will ever now. My relative raised educated, loving children. She did this without a television show and paid endorsements.

    The Gosselins family is in trouble. I wish the best for them.
  • Serena Leigh Bell
    My mother and father raised 3 children in rural St Louis. They were actually half brother and sister but they didn't know that on account of their father being a philanderer and a good liar. Anyhoos they only had a double wide trailer and what was once a former diary farm pasture. We grew up without much toys, but with lots of cow patties around and some natural clay we made all kinds of fun stuff like pots, toy soldiers, injuns and cowboys etc etc. Yep. There was a lot of love goin on in our trailer. Lots of fond memories. Too bad that the Gosselin children won't know any of that. They have been spoiled on riches and such. Spoiling your kids is the same as child abuse in my book. Yep.
  • Sharla
    Bravo. Bravo. Great article. Articulate article I must say. I am a Gosselins Without Pity (GWoP) moderator and let me just tell you that reading such good articles makes me very excited. By excited I mean the type of exitement that is felt when you kiss a man for the first time. By excited I mean the type of exitement that happenes when your man tells you to lay on your stomach and them asks you where the KY Jelly is. Yes! Yesss! That's what I'm talking about. Articles like these will knock Katie Irene down a few notches. Yessireee!
  • hollywood3001
    Sharla..you are too funny...I love it!
  • LA Plastics
    Kate-Sharla-Justwondering- Sock Puppets of the Universe.
    Remember, botox can seep into the brain cells and amplify raging stupidity as well as pure meanness. Boob jobs, tummy tucks and constant spa visits do not a good mother make. However, a shallow twit is right at home with this waste of skin.

    Sucks to be you guys doesn't it?
  • Sharla
    Take it Oprah. It's not my problem you lost your children due to your selfish ways.
  • LA Plastics
    Your post makes no sense what so ever, other than an inner confession of your own failings as a parent and even a human.

    Put down the bottle,
    Step away from the keyboard
    And never, ever, again come to a battle of wits unarmed.

    It's just too sad.
  • LA Plastics
    The reason why I post on Gosselins Without Pity is because on GWOP I can be somebody. A number of years ago I went to my high school renunion and discovered that a lot of women I went to school were had sucessful careers. I chose to get married, have children and help my husband's horse insemination business. You know how I felt after that reunion? Well a short time afterwards I discovered that I had a voice and blogging was my medium. Sharla your comment cut me like a ninja. I hope you are happy.
  • The Real LA Plastics
    Ah, I told you to put the bottle down dear.

    Again, flaunting your stupidity only makes you look more stupid.

    BTW, typical Kate Fan behavior.

    Yawn.
  • The Real Real LA Plastics
    Stop sockpuppeting me or I will call my internet lawyer. His horse liked my husband's sperm. He will do anything for me.
  • LA_Plastics
    Hun, I cut my teeth on Usenet, this is kindergarden.

    Now, can you prove your point with logic and not childish insults.

    I've yet to see one Princess Kate fan refute any of the following-
    a. Her driving away and alienation of most friends and family.
    b. Her documented 'meltdowns' that were filmed and many shown on TLC.
    c. Her horriblessness usagessiss of the English language on her blog as well as in public.
    d. That she actually wrote her first book.
    e. The numerous editorials by respected journalists and authors, all supporting the same view of Kate as being 'cold and with an inflexible sense of entitlement.'
    f. And lastly, the most telling---- Where are Kate's RL friends, family, neighbors and former patients shouting their support and refutation of the negative that is posted by Kate.

    Whine all you want about the negative press on the web about Kate--- most of it is supported by even pre-TLC interviews and meetings, first hand accounts by legitimate sources, and even today, by insightful articles such as this one.

    All the Kate supporters have are each other and little data. Which is why the typical Katenazi throws insults, acts childish and flaunts their low IQ and poor debating skills by getting flustered, frustrated.

    You, who like her are most like her.
  • Kateisprettierthanyou
    Oh, wow!!! Usenet.
    None of what your wrote matters because Kate is thinner and prettier than you.
    GO BE FAT ELSEWHERE.
  • Meh
    "I don't like her! Other people don't like her!"

    So what?
  • LA_Plastics
    Smartest post I've read all day.
  • hollywood3001
    I can't believe people are still going to hear Kate speak and sign books...like she is still the example of a perfect mom...what an absolute joke..anyone who attends one of these cheesy appearances needs to be ashamed of themselves...PERIOD!
  • Serena Leigh Bell
    Yes, and adults who think ... is some kind of punctuation should be listened to for advice. I hate the people that post at my site. I'm going to hang with PennMommy and her son... oh no, I'm not.
  • William Shatner
    It's just that I can't....finish a thought...It's kind of a problem...that I never learned how to use a...PERIOD!
  • Lindsay
    Great column. Very well prosed. Everything you have said is completely undeniable.

    I find it interesting that, in addititon to the obviously deteriotion of their marriage, there were so many othe falls from grace that this couple experienced - all of which are for the most part overlooked. I remember seeing post-it notes with biblical prose taped up throughout their house during the initial seasons of the show... How devout are they nowadays? Surely they are not 'leaving the house only to go to church' as they did when they babies were first born... I question if they go to church at all anymore. ALthough I am sure this can be blamed on their fame and the paparazzi preventing them from being able to praise their lord.

    Another interesting decline in moral substance is the family diet. Even on the tightest budget, Kate would say that she will travel to four grocery stores if she has to in order to take advantage of sales that will allow her family to eat 100% organic. I am pretty sure the PizzaHut they were eating in their new 1.3million dollar home was not 100% organic.
  • hollywood3001
    Lindsay - Awesome comment! Could not agree with you more. The hypocrisy is just amazing in that household.
  • ScaredofuinPA
    Why do you know such details? You are insane.
  • Lindsay
    Ummm.... I've watched the show....? It isn't really a 'detail' when a team of camera men zoom in on it...
  • KatWomanDu
    Perhaps Kate is building a temple to herself on her land and can't get away to go to a plebeian church?
  • Dawn
    If Jon and Kate were smart, they'd be dividing the shows profits into 8 separate bank accounts for their children's college educations. I hope they have enough sense to do this, before the money stops rolling in.
  • hollywood3001
    I know Dawn..where the hell is all of that money going? I hope the judge in their divorce case forces Jon and Kate to set up trust funds for the kids where money will be protected until they reach adulthood. At the rate Jon and Kate are spending money, there will be nothing left!!!!!
  • Lindsay
    I will have an answer for you tomorrow. I am setting up camp in the Gosselin's hedges. When darkness falls, I will put on my nightvision goggles, break into the home, read the post-its on the fridge, eat whatever is in the fridge, then look for their personal papers.
  • KatWomanDu
    Sounds as though someone has a crush on Kate. Hoping to be invited to her slumber party?
  • They get mad about that!
    Whatever you do, don't eat the yoghurt!
  • Lynne
    I am incredulous that so many would have so little to say about Mr. Semino's thoughful article. His comprehensive legal analysis of the problems in the Gosselin family appears to be wasted on the great majority of commenters.

    Instead of taking potshots at one another, be inspired to take some actions on behalf of the Gosselin children. Use your energy to write letters to TLC and Zondervan, asking for intervention and surcease for these children. Look it up.
  • Sharla Smith
    Lynne your use of the word incredulous and surcease is incorrect. By incorrect I mean that you took two words and jammed them into a sentence without understanding what the words meant nor how to use them. YOU should look those words up.

    I am assuming that you are a stay at home mom and your education consists of about 9 units at the local junior college. Your comment about TLC and Zondervan reveals to me that you are 1) a GWoPer 2) a Hypocritical Christian. Look up hypocritical.
  • LA_Plastics
    Sharla,
    Can you actually post anything supporting the opposite of this article? Anything?

    I'd love to read it, seriously.

    Posting insults and assumptions simply make you look like you're out of your league and depth. You're losing the battle, you're out of ammunition and all you can do now is throw dung.

    Do you understand what I'm saying?

    You may represent the pro-Kate side, but for the most part, the logical, evidence supported statements are made by the other side.

    If you are serious and realio trulio support Kate and want to fight for her and the show, post with some dignity. Post evidence to the contrary.

    Otherwise, you only underscore the belief that Kate, like her fans, is a childish, not very bright, meanspirited, white trash harridan.
  • GWoPers = Sheeple
    LA Plastics, you said, "Otherwise, you only underscore the belief that Kate, like her fans, is a childish, not very bright, meanspirited, white trash harridan."

    What I want to know is why did you have to drag your mother into this?
  • KatWomanDu
    I myself am INCREDIBLE! I know; I've told myself so, so many times.
  • You're missing the point. It isn't about the children being exploited, it's about a bunch of fat, lazy, worthless, stay at home mom Kate Haters being jellus of how great and hot Kate looks.

    Check out my blog, y'all!
    http://gwop-without-pity.blogspot.com/
  • Gail
    Your "site" is the most immature rubbish I have ever read.
    You don't like the women at GWOP, so what? Why do you assume every last woman at GWOP is heavy?
    Are you as thin and beautiful as Kate??

    You do realize that Kate wouldn't even make eye contact with you, yet you devote all your time (while neglecting YOUR children) to make a blog about women who don't approve of child exploitation.

    Kathy Griffin, or LAnderson, whatever your name is this week, you are nuts and if you had one ounce of dignity you'd take your site down, as the other hate site voluntarily did.
  • Jen
    This is, quite possibly, the best analysis of this terrible situation I have ever read. You hit the nail on the head! Thank you for an insightful article! It's about time people start looking at this situation for what it really is: an exercise in greed at the expense of eight childhood's and eight kids' emotional health. THANK YOU!
  • hollywood3001
    Jen - Couldn't agree with you more! Every Kate fan needs to read this and then tell us what they think!
  • Kat, PHD
    I read it and I think you need to be fat somewhere else.
    I have a PHD, which I make sure to mention when I spam gossip boards.
  • KatWomanDu
    Spam makes you fat.
  • You are completely missing the point, like all of those fat, lazy, ugly unkempt Kate haters like the women over at Gosselins Without Pity always do. What is most important in this story is that Kate is free to spend the money her children made on whatever she wants, however she wants and whenever she wants. What is important in this story is that the fat, ugly stay at home moms who hate Kate hate her because Kate has gorgeous fake French manicure fingernails and a totally hot spray tan and a completely rockin' bod, y'all. It's not about the children, y'all! It's about the fact that stay at home mothers who say they are concerned about the well being of innocent children are in fact jellus of Kate Gosselin's glamor. Look, it's their stupid fault that they are all fat, ugly useless jobless slobs who have no ambition. They probably have never even been to a spa, the worthless haters.

    Check out my blog, y'all!
    http://gwop-without-pity.blogspot.com/
  • Pennmommy
    I'm eating the yoghurt I stole from Kate Gosselin. I'm sharing it with my son because I'm a REAL mom. It's 5 years old, hope it doesn't give him an appendicitis.
  • Patricia
    Summer is always so much fun. The children are out of school. We can see them playing here under other people's names. It has to be children. No adult I know has this much time to waste demonstrating such an utter lack of thought and maturity unless they are stoned or drunk.
  • KatWomanDu
    Hey, Patricia, I represent that remark! I have a PhD, you know, and I am invincible!
  • Yanking your chain = fun
    Maybe some of us don't give a shit about Kate. Maybe we like her. Maybe we hate her. Maybe we think that way too much attention is being paid to a trivial TV show and its fallout because a bunch of harpies like nothing more than to clutch their pearls and gasbag about what good, thrifty, chaste, sweet, Christian, kindhearted, loving, supportive wives and mothers they are in comparison to that bikini-wearing WHORE OF BABYLON MEGALOMANIAC HITLER, Kate Gosselin, on every internet site known to man.
  • DippyDo
    Whore of Babylon? I thought Kate was from Pennsylvania.
  • ManicNarcissism
    No, I'm pretty sure she's the daughter of Satan, sent from the bowels of hell to torment me with her cupcake-denying ways. Get back, Satan!
  • NEW VIDEO OF KATE BEATING THE KID!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA-pWKRyyG8
  • I took time out of my busy schedule of faking comments over on my site to feature your column, Matt! Me and all of my sockpuppets really enjoyed it (it's such a bitch coming up with fake blogger profiles, oh right, "hidden" blogger profiles and what I think are witty names for my "comments"). Keep up all of the good work, or I'll have to go back to using pictures of puppets with my own hilarious captions to keep my pretend friends entertained.
  • Here is what I said over at my super cool hilarious blog. I have such a gift for parody and so much time on my hands:

    "I don't know whose doing it (it's not me) but excellent work. There's nothing I enjoy better than some blowhard announcing he's both attorney and world's smartest person and then choosing to back all those credentials with a 4-page thesis about a TV show."

    Psssst...of course it's me posting all of these clever messages on this site. I got a lot of good practice pretending to be other people over at my own.
  • SHUT THE FUCK UP SLUT
  • 新移民執法 稽查數百業主
    美聯社華盛頓1日電
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    經濟不景氣加上聯邦政府展開新一波打擊職場僱用非法移民的行動,使新移民找工作遭遇更多困難。圖為新移民在長島繁忙十字路口等待雇主提供工作機會。美聯社

    經濟不景氣加上聯邦政府展開新一波打擊職場僱用非法移民的行動,使新移民找工作遭遇更多困難。圖為新移民在長島繁忙十字路口等待雇主提供工作機會。美聯社
    slideshow
    歐巴馬政府配合對付僱用非法移民雇主的策略,1日開始調查全國各地數百家企業。

    移民及海關執法局(ICE)以電郵通知國會議員,表示它已開始通知企業要稽查它們的I-9表格,也就是雇主必須為每一個員工填報的工作資格文件。

    國內安全部說,移民官員向652家企業發出稽查通知。ICE是根據有關線索和其他調查作業,選擇查核對象。去年向企業發出的類似通知為502份。

    雇主依法必須保留I-9表格,並檢查員工提供的證件真偽。國內安全部說,由於調查作業還在進行,它將不公布受到稽查的企業名稱或所在。

    ICE局長莫藤(John Morton)在聲明中表示:「本局致力成立有意義的I-9稽查計畫,以推動守法。這項全國性努力是本局解決和遏止非法移民的長期策略的一部分。」

    歐巴馬總統曾表示,他的政府對遏制非法移民的策略,重點放在對付僱用非法移民的雇主。布希政府因出動武裝探員突檢企業,並逮捕非法工作的移民,而備受指責。

    歐巴馬政府試圖建立切實執行移民法的信譽,以提高促使國會通過移民改革法案的機會。

    雖然政府對是否已爭取到支持法案所需的票數並無把握,可是一些議員上周與歐巴馬會談後,表示移民改革法可能在今年底或明年初通過。

    稽查I-9表格必然使雇主感到不安。它們早已抱怨要辨認非法移民很困難,除了偽造的身分證件愈來愈看不出破綻,動不動又可能被控種族歧視。

    國內安全部長珍妮‧納波利塔諾說,調查工作將針對明知故犯,故意僱用不能在美國合法工作的移民的企業。

    稽查作業可能發現各種問題,從很容易糾正的文書錯誤,一直到可能導致刑事罪名的違規情事。

    根據違規情況,雇主可能面對各種處分,包括罰款、禁止承包聯邦合約,到刑事制裁。員工也可能被控盜竊身分或文件詐欺。 新移民執法 稽查數百業主
    美聯社華盛頓1日電
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    經濟不景氣加上聯邦政府展開新一波打擊職場僱用非法移民的行動,使新移民找工作遭遇更多困難。圖為新移民在長島繁忙十字路口等待雇主提供工作機會。美聯社

    經濟不景氣加上聯邦政府展開新一波打擊職場僱用非法移民的行動,使新移民找工作遭遇更多困難。圖為新移民在長島繁忙十字路口等待雇主提供工作機會。美聯社
    slideshow
    歐巴馬政府配合對付僱用非法移民雇主的策略,1日開始調查全國各地數百家企業。

    移民及海關執法局(ICE)以電郵通知國會議員,表示它已開始通知企業要稽查它們的I-9表格,也就是雇主必須為每一個員工填報的工作資格文件。

    國內安全部說,移民官員向652家企業發出稽查通知。ICE是根據有關線索和其他調查作業,選擇查核對象。去年向企業發出的類似通知為502份。

    雇主依法必須保留I-9表格,並檢查員工提供的證件真偽。國內安全部說,由於調查作業還在進行,它將不公布受到稽查的企業名稱或所在。

    ICE局長莫藤(John Morton)在聲明中表示:「本局致力成立有意義的I-9稽查計畫,以推動守法。這項全國性努力是本局解決和遏止非法移民的長期策略的一部分。」

    歐巴馬總統曾表示,他的政府對遏制非法移民的策略,重點放在對付僱用非法移民的雇主。布希政府因出動武裝探員突檢企業,並逮捕非法工作的移民,而備受指責。

    歐巴馬政府試圖建立切實執行移民法的信譽,以提高促使國會通過移民改革法案的機會。

    雖然政府對是否已爭取到支持法案所需的票數並無把握,可是一些議員上周與歐巴馬會談後,表示移民改革法可能在今年底或明年初通過。

    稽查I-9表格必然使雇主感到不安。它們早已抱怨要辨認非法移民很困難,除了偽造的身分證件愈來愈看不出破綻,動不動又可能被控種族歧視。

    國內安全部長珍妮‧納波利塔諾說,調查工作將針對明知故犯,故意僱用不能在美國合法工作的移民的企業。

    稽查作業可能發現各種問題,從很容易糾正的文書錯誤,一直到可能導致刑事罪名的違規情事。

    根據違規情況,雇主可能面對各種處分,包括罰款、禁止承包聯邦合約,到刑事制裁。員工也可能被控盜竊身分或文件詐欺。 新移民執法 稽查數百業主
    美聯社華盛頓1日電
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    經濟不景氣加上聯邦政府展開新一波打擊職場僱用非法移民的行動,使新移民找工作遭遇更多困難。圖為新移民在長島繁忙十字路口等待雇主提供工作機會。美聯社

    經濟不景氣加上聯邦政府展開新一波打擊職場僱用非法移民的行動,使新移民找工作遭遇更多困難。圖為新移民在長島繁忙十字路口等待雇主提供工作機會。美聯社
    slideshow
    歐巴馬政府配合對付僱用非法移民雇主的策略,1日開始調查全國各地數百家企業。

    移民及海關執法局(ICE)以電郵通知國會議員,表示它已開始通知企業要稽查它們的I-9表格,也就是雇主必須為每一個員工填報的工作資格文件。

    國內安全部說,移民官員向652家企業發出稽查通知。ICE是根據有關線索和其他調查作業,選擇查核對象。去年向企業發出的類似通知為502份。

    雇主依法必須保留I-9表格,並檢查員工提供的證件真偽。國內安全部說,由於調查作業還在進行,它將不公布受到稽查的企業名稱或所在。

    ICE局長莫藤(John Morton)在聲明中表示:「本局致力成立有意義的I-9稽查計畫,以推動守法。這項全國性努力是本局解決和遏止非法移民的長期策略的一部分。」

    歐巴馬總統曾表示,他的政府對遏制非法移民的策略,重點放在對付僱用非法移民的雇主。布希政府因出動武裝探員突檢企業,並逮捕非法工作的移民,而備受指責。

    歐巴馬政府試圖建立切實執行移民法的信譽,以提高促使國會通過移民改革法案的機會。

    雖然政府對是否已爭取到支持法案所需的票數並無把握,可是一些議員上周與歐巴馬會談後,表示移民改革法可能在今年底或明年初通過。

    稽查I-9表格必然使雇主感到不安。它們早已抱怨要辨認非法移民很困難,除了偽造的身分證件愈來愈看不出破綻,動不動又可能被控種族歧視。

    國內安全部長珍妮‧納波利塔諾說,調查工作將針對明知故犯,故意僱用不能在美國合法工作的移民的企業。

    稽查作業可能發現各種問題,從很容易糾正的文書錯誤,一直到可能導致刑事罪名的違規情事。

    根據違規情況,雇主可能面對各種處分,包括罰款、禁止承包聯邦合約,到刑事制裁。員工也可能被控盜竊身分或文件詐欺。 新移民執法 稽查數百業主
    美聯社華盛頓1日電
    July 02, 2009 12:01 AM | 10656 觀看次數 | 4 4 評論推薦: | 電郵給朋友 | 打印
    經濟不景氣加上聯邦政府展開新一波打擊職場僱用非法移民的行動,使新移民找工作遭遇更多困難。圖為新移民在長島繁忙十字路口等待雇主提供工作機會。美聯社

    經濟不景氣加上聯邦政府展開新一波打擊職場僱用非法移民的行動,使新移民找工作遭遇更多困難。圖為新移民在長島繁忙十字路口等待雇主提供工作機會。美聯社
    slideshow
    歐巴馬政府配合對付僱用非法移民雇主的策略,1日開始調查全國各地數百家企業。

    移民及海關執法局(ICE)以電郵通知國會議員,表示它已開始通知企業要稽查它們的I-9表格,也就是雇主必須為每一個員工填報的工作資格文件。

    國內安全部說,移民官員向652家企業發出稽查通知。ICE是根據有關線索和其他調查作業,選擇查核對象。去年向企業發出的類似通知為502份。

    雇主依法必須保留I-9表格,並檢查員工提供的證件真偽。國內安全部說,由於調查作業還在進行,它將不公布受到稽查的企業名稱或所在。

    ICE局長莫藤(John Morton)在聲明中表示:「本局致力成立有意義的I-9稽查計畫,以推動守法。這項全國性努力是本局解決和遏止非法移民的長期策略的一部分。」

    歐巴馬總統曾表示,他的政府對遏制非法移民的策略,重點放在對付僱用非法移民的雇主。布希政府因出動武裝探員突檢企業,並逮捕非法工作的移民,而備受指責。

    歐巴馬政府試圖建立切實執行移民法的信譽,以提高促使國會通過移民改革法案的機會。

    雖然政府對是否已爭取到支持法案所需的票數並無把握,可是一些議員上周與歐巴馬會談後,表示移民改革法可能在今年底或明年初通過。

    稽查I-9表格必然使雇主感到不安。它們早已抱怨要辨認非法移民很困難,除了偽造的身分證件愈來愈看不出破綻,動不動又可能被控種族歧視。

    國內安全部長珍妮‧納波利塔諾說,調查工作將針對明知故犯,故意僱用不能在美國合法工作的移民的企業。

    稽查作業可能發現各種問題,從很容易糾正的文書錯誤,一直到可能導致刑事罪名的違規情事。

    根據違規情況,雇主可能面對各種處分,包括罰款、禁止承包聯邦合約,到刑事制裁。員工也可能被控盜竊身分或文件詐欺。 SHUT THE FUCK UP SLUT
  • GDDNOPwopper
    Well, it certainly gets your (diapered) goat.
  • BK
    "BK (my real name removed),
    If the family is that awful in your mind then for heavens sake stop watching. They do the best we can so don't compare us to other people it is not right. When you have eight children to take care of you can say you're an expert on the family but you're not so just shut up. You can be sued for what things you say. Shut your mouth before it costs you. You know a few things but big deal who does'nt know some bad things about everyone. We know you left your son at school late everyday in March to May (Note: I had chemotherapy during the last semester of school. Since I wasn't in a state to drive safely, I had my sister picking my son up. But, her children got out of school at the same time, ten minutes away (at their school). So, yes...my son had to wait for his Aunt.). Is that good parenting, I don't think so....(I deleted a portion of this e-mail because there was quite a bit of identifying information about my family and the family member of the G's). Just stop watching the show okay. Stop spreading rumors true or not because you don't know the side of the story of the Gosselins. There are two sides to everything. We know you know *name removed to protect the family member*. *He/She* tells lies to make their own life better more. *He/She* chose to not be a part of the Gosselin life. Get a life."
  • Kate takes it up the asss
  • I agree with you so much I created a blog just so I can make stupid, lame and unfunny jokes about the mods at a site that is, let's face it, a million times better and more popular than mine. I will defend Kate Gosselin because she is my lesbian dream girl. I won't tolerate anyone saying anything against my Kate and will go on childish personal attacks in the hopes that those horrible people at GWOP will stop insulting my Katie.
  • Regina George
    The above poster is sorry that people are so jealous of her... but she can't help it that she's so popular. And you can't come to her pool party 'cause you're a lesbian.

    Off to write in the burn book!
  • GWoPers = Sheeple
    The Gosselin Without Pity moderators and bloggers basically consist of one of the lowest rungs of American society, the do nothing, fat, lazy, uneducated, stay at home moms who would otherwise be homeless if it weren't for a man who works hard to support their lazy lifestyle. If they are reading this I tell them to put down the gossip magazines, go on a diet, stop blogging, go on Monster.com and get their ass a job.

    Consider my remark tough love GWoP bitches. One day your hubby might wake up and realize that they are married to a lazy, good for nothing, parasite and decide to leave you for a woman that not only looks ten times better but actually has something to offer other than large grocery bills.
  • I know! I created my blog because I have absolutely no respect for women who stay at home all day and actually take care of their kids. It's much better if you are like Kate Gosselin, aka my one true lesbian love, my beloved idol, and spend your days getting stupid haircuts and soaking up as many freebie spa treatments as humanly possible. After all, what will your kids remember? Mom being kind to us and doing stuff with us, or Mom having tacky nouveau riche faux French fingertips? Over at GWOP Without Pity, we sure know what the answer to that question is!

    I love to make fun of stay at home moms. It's hilarious to sit in judgment of women who do the world's hardest job, and instead call them lazy and fat and say that they don't actually work. Stupid fat ugly bitches. They should get a real job, like Kate Gosselin has, get exploiting her kids for as many free trips and spa treatments as possible, then saddle the kids with a nanny while going off to screw the bodyguard. My idol. Why do I know this is so? Because my blog says so, you stupid fat lazy ugly stay at home mothers who do not do any work.
  • Goat in a diaper
    Oh, I don't think they're making fun of ALL stay-at-home moms, my dear. Just the ones who appoint themselves judge and jury of others based on their own insecurities about their appearance, income, social class, and childrearing skills. And the ones who seem to think that "lesbian" is a suitable insult.

    Now run along and comfort yourself with the thought that at least YOU don't get manicures. Manicured hands are Satan's tools, after all!
  • Oh, but I do get manicures. I also fake bake, spray tan, and have the Kate Gosselin Attitude hairdo. Nose plucking, sure. Botox? You bet. Fake titties too. Because I just love Kate that much and because I hate those fat, ugly, frumpy stay at home mothers at GWOP that much. Evil bitches. I'll show them by creating a blog that could easily be mistaken for theirs, if it weren't for it all being so stupid and lame and riddled with bad grammar! Evil bitches, all of them, knocking on my Katie. Why, it burns me up so much inside, I gotta go do another post with sock puppets and make comments with sockpuppets and then go get something waxed. Evil fat ugly frumpy jellus shrews.
  • And I don't think being a lesbian is insulting, not at all. How could I, when my darling Katie, who I love so much that I had to create my own super duper terrific parody blog in order to make a lame attempt to "answer" her critics, sports a hairdo beloved by all lesbians, circa 1985?

    Check out my blog, y'all! Count the number of comments that are actually me posting under different names (hint: all of them!)! Well, I can't be expected to make dummy Blogger accounts for every one of my fake comments, can I?

    http://gwop-without-pity.blogspot.com/
  • Obtuse
    * Main Entry: ob·tuse
    * Pronunciation: \äb-ˈtüs, əb-, -ˈtyüs\
    * Function: adjective
    * Inflected Form(s): ob·tus·er; ob·tus·est
    * Etymology: Middle English, from Latin obtusus blunt, dull, from past participle of obtundere to beat against, blunt, from ob- against + tundere to beat — more at ob-, contusion
    * Date: 15th century

    1 a : not pointed or acute : blunt b (1) of an angle : exceeding 90 degrees but less than 180 degrees (2) : having an obtuse angle <an obtuse triangle> — see triangle illustration c of a leaf : rounded at the free end
    2 a : lacking sharpness or quickness of sensibility or intellect : insensitive, stupid b : difficult to comprehend : not clear or precise in thought or expression
    synonyms see dull
  • Sublimate
    * Main Entry: 1sub·li·mate
    * Pronunciation: \ˈsə-blə-ˌmāt\
    * Function: transitive verb
    * Inflected Form(s): sub·li·mat·ed; sub·li·mat·ing
    * Etymology: Middle English, from Medieval Latin sublimatus, past participle of sublimare
    * Date: 15th century

    1 a : sublime 1 b archaic : to improve or refine as if by subliming
    2 : to divert the expression of (an instinctual desire or impulse) from its unacceptable form to one that is considered more socially or culturally acceptable

    — sub·li·ma·tion \ˌsə-blə-ˈmā-shən\ noun
  • Transference
    * Main Entry: trans·fer·ence
    * Pronunciation: \tran(t)s-ˈfər-ən(t)s, ˈtran(t)s-(ˌ)\
    * Function: noun
    * Date: 1681

    1 : an act, process, or instance of transferring : conveyance, transfer
    2 : the redirection of feelings and desires and especially of those unconsciously retained from childhood toward a new object (as a psychoanalyst conducting therapy)

    — trans·fer·en·tial \ˌtran(t)s-fə-ˈren(t)-shəl\ adjective
  • Bitter Julie
    Just a few new words for our outraged little faux-GWopwopper who does so love to work herself into a froth while missing the point entirely. Perhaps if you weren't so fixated on the state of other people's tans...You can take your new words to your therapist on Monday, hon. I think she's been urging you toward a breakthrough.

    Before you go back to tongue-bathing each other's fine upstanding morals on GWoP, check the calendar: today's the day to send hate mail to innocent people! Oh, that's every day. Well, then, check the goat - it might need another diaper (store-brand, not them fancy Pampers).

    Excuse me - I'm off to laugh myself silly over GWoP having even the merest speck of high ground to stand on when it comes to grammatical errors.
  • Sharla's Lesbian Lover
    The people from the blogsites "Musings from the Moon" and "Gosselins Without Pity" (GWoP)are hate mongers. I believe that they should be classified as "hate groups". They routinely post email and physical addresses of their victims. They urge other bloggers to harass people they don't like. They are really despicable people.
  • GWoPers = Sheeple
    LA Plastics, you said, "Otherwise, you only underscore the belief that Kate, like her fans, is a childish, not very bright, meanspirited, white trash harridan."

    What I want to know is why did you have to drag your mother into this?
  • Can't stand any of you people
    Wow. Great article, and even BETTER comments!! I've never been so entertained! Thanks for the fun - and you are all idiots!!
  • Aunt Jodi
    I just want to say thank you to Radaronline.com for allowing us to pay off our mortgage. I'd also like to say that I agree with my sister Julie that the nasty comments GWOP makes about my nieces/nephews are very funny. Kevin and I refer to Hannah as Fatty Arbuckle around our paid for house too.
  • 10grandchildren
    I admire Kate for her drive, emotional strength, and her instincts to do what is best for her children. What is the alternative? Would all the nay slayers want to see Kate give up all she has worked so hard for and achieved in the past 5 years and rely on Public Assistance to support her family (like OctaMom)? Jon is the selfish one - NOT Kate. I only hope that Kate has an excellent lawyer who will protect her and the childrens' best financial interests that Kate has worked so hard at achieving. Let Jon leave to pursue his selfish wants with only a very small portion of their financial wealth as it was Kate's body that endured her pregnancy aches and pains - not Jon.
    Kate is an inspiration to all Single Parents that struggle carrying the load of Parenthood all by themselves. Women are so much stronger than men are emotionally.
  • hollywood3001
    10grandchildren, interesting perspective.
  • LisaK
    I admire Kate because she has a butt you could bounce a quarter off of. My husband tells me that my buttocks looks like two ham skins stuffed with marbles. Yeah, crazy huh. I like the color green.
  • slB
    I like to thank everyone that has sent info to my PO Box. It's nice to know we have all of your personal info.Special shout out to those that included your screen name.
    Remember how those of us on the super secret board used the email addresses sent to pennmommy to email you with our little jokes, hahahaha.
  • Time Is Precious
    Honestly the people who run GWOP as well as the people who think that GWOP is so great, are losers. Losers because they waste their time hating on Kate Gosselin. They are jaded women that don't have anything more worthwhile to do than pick apart a family that stars on a cable television show. Ridiculous!

    Seriously the GWOPers need to chill out about this woman. Any sane person reading the GWOP blog for even a few minutes can realize that these GWOPers don't give a damn about children. They just like to spew hatred.

    Why do they do this? GWOPers I believe are just blinded by their own hatred for Kate. They are envious of Kate and secretly wish that they could live Kate's lifestyle. It's not about fake tans and crooked houses or whatever petty thing the GWOPers like to harp about. What the GWOPers are pissed off about is they see a woman who basically comes across like a bitch and a diva getting a lot of money and living the type of lifestyle that most people can't even dream about. Kate has gone from the trailer park to about the height of upper middleclass not by any talent or merit but by basically birthing a litter of humans.

    Kate has a lot of stuff, so what? Maybe all of the stuff Kate has is a curse. Who really knows. GWOPers if you don't know this by now, life is unfair. You should repeat that as your mantra, "LIFE IS UNFAIR". Here is another mantra, "I don't care about Kate Gosselin." Envy will eat you alive so stop obsessing about Kate. GWOP women take my advice and stop spending SO MUCH TIME hating Kate and do something productive with yourselves, something loving. Love overcomes hate. Free yourselves!
  • Gail
    Yet you have time to hate on them???
  • hollywood3001
    To all of the nasty commentors, show a little respect...I know its anonymous..and it is cyberspace, but come on now. Are you all a bunch of little bitchy, whiny girls!!!??? It would be nice to actually see some intelligent debate from both side about the real issues at hand here. I have yet to hear one Kate and Jon supporter put forth a thoughtful argument about why these two ninnies should continue to get more air time. Please do tell us why!
  • Sharla Smith and LisaK
    We think that Jon and Kate and those cute little aygin chillin' should be given more air time becuz the chillin' are a-d-o-r-i-b-l-e-!.
    Yup that's what we be thinkin y'all.

    Wonder Twin powers activate!
  • hollywood3001
    Do you believe Jon is galavanting in France with his new girlfriend acting like a freakin celebrity when the only reason he is there is due to the sweat of his children's labor. Really pathetic and disgusting behavior.
  • carol carbino
    I'd like to suggest that kate be given a new show, where in she could do rescipes that she uses for her family. Interviews other interesting people not just VIPS but, people who live different lives and have interesting lives. It could also allow her to have the children participate at times doing crafts and other interesting child like topics. Maybe even have Rosie O'Donnal doing crafts with her children, or Rachel Ray cooking with the children. It wouldn't have to feature the children every week, but would be a way of updating her fans on their growth and sharing whatever things she feels approiate or interesting. Maybe even have Jon included if he grows up enough to treat her with respect and stops his foolish hunt for the wild women. He needs to back off and evaluate what he really wants his life to be like.
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